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Chuckalicious



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Do all FL2s have start/stop?

Random one - my old TD4 manual (2010) had start/stop. My 2014 SD4 auto SE doesn’t seem to have a start/stop button nor does the engine ever stop as would be expected if start/stop was there.

Is that an auto box thing? Seems odd a newer vehicle wouldn’t have it. FL2 TD4 GS 60 reg Facelift - so many issues
2019 DS. Terribly unreliable.
Sold DS for a 2021 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. Fingers crossed....
Sold Outlander for a 2014 SD4 SE Tech because I’m mental
Now greatly regret selling the Outlander. MPG of the FL2 is atrocious and so are the fuel bills. Fun though 😎
Couldn’t afford the fuel bills so back to an older Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. Significantly better than I remembered it to be…

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Lightwater



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Ukraine 2013 Freelander 2 2.0T SE Auto Fuji White

My petrol auto doesn't have it. Probably the actual vehicle which should have it. But I don't see the point of it when most vehicles in the city are stopping & starting like a yo-yo. If in the country, what's the point either. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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Post #442557 14th Jun 2024 6:53 am
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Chuckalicious



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Interesting. I was never a fan of it, but wondered if it was meant to be there and it was a battery issue (shouldn’t be as the battery is new) - I had that in the old car.

Had assumed every manufacturer put it in to drop the theoretical emissions. FL2 TD4 GS 60 reg Facelift - so many issues
2019 DS. Terribly unreliable.
Sold DS for a 2021 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. Fingers crossed....
Sold Outlander for a 2014 SD4 SE Tech because I’m mental
Now greatly regret selling the Outlander. MPG of the FL2 is atrocious and so are the fuel bills. Fun though 😎
Couldn’t afford the fuel bills so back to an older Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. Significantly better than I remembered it to be…

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little jimmy



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Santorini Black

2009 HSE TD4. No stop starting mine. My sisters 2021 Kia Picanto GT has Stop/start. There is however a very visible switch to turn it off. I expect you get used to it, but I find it weird.

Post #442559 14th Jun 2024 7:09 am
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janderson41



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As far as I know Autos do not have stop start.
There must be a good reason for this and someone more qualified than me probably has the answer.
The few times I have hired a car with stop start I switched it off. Jim A
Fl2 HSE 2010 auto
Disco 2Td5 auto 2002 gone
Disci 1 300Tdi auto 1996 gone

Post #442560 14th Jun 2024 7:17 am
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Nodge68



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Manual Rimini Red

Automatics don't have stop/start as an auto could suddenly start moving if the driver forgot the box was in a gear, and the engine restarted without warning.
So only manual boxed Freelander's had the feature, and only when the box was in neutral, and the clutch was up. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone.
2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone.
Audi A5 convertible, my daily driver.
1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project.

Post #442561 14th Jun 2024 7:44 am
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jules



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 SE Auto Firenze Red

And all SD4s are automatics. Jules

Post #442563 14th Jun 2024 9:13 am
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Dean1234



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From what I can gather Freelander 2's from launch to 2009 didn't have start/stop on them apart from the odd 2009 car here and there. 2010 cars onwards then did have start/stop apart from SD4's.

Does it make me odd that I really like the start/stop on our car!? Laughing It's really nice when you get to a set of lights that have just gone red to knock it out of gear, handbrake on and then relax in almost silence. Plus it's super helpful when going through drive thrus when giving your order. Laughing https://www.youtube.com/@scottandalana4x4

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RogB



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England 2013 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Lux Auto Santorini Black

Nodge68 wrote:
Automatics don't have stop/start as an auto could suddenly start moving if the driver forgot the box was in a gear, and the engine restarted without warning.
So only manual boxed Freelander's had the feature, and only when the box was in neutral, and the clutch was up.


more modern autos have stop/start

I believe it was because the Aisin 6 speed auto box could not be configured to accommodate stop/start due to it being an early 2000's designed set up, not sure if that was because of electronic issue or mechanical though.

The early 2.2 Evoque which were basically just a FL2 in a pretty frock did have stop/start but I think the gearbox was from a different manufacturer although I could be wrong

Happy to be corrected by more mechanically minded bods on the forum though.

Post #442568 14th Jun 2024 12:09 pm
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Lightwater



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Ukraine 2013 Freelander 2 2.0T SE Auto Fuji White

Dean1234 wrote:
Does it make me odd that I really like the start/stop on our car!? Laughing It's really nice when you get to a set of lights that have just gone red to knock it out of gear, handbrake on and then relax in almost silence.

You could stuff the car full of acoustic insulation & have a quiet car when the engine is running. Standing at lights is a piece of cake.
https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic33026.html
Still to today I am still surprised how quiet the car is when on the move, extremely noticeable when I or other half opens a window. Closed very quickly for piece & quite. Can barely hear the mirrors fold.

Even outback corrugated roads are bearable after 4 or so hours! Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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Nodge68



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Manual Rimini Red

Dean1234 wrote:
It's really nice when you get to a set of lights that have just gone red to knock it out of gear, handbrake on and then relax in almost silence. Plus it's super helpful when going through drive thrus when giving your order. Laughing


I've noticed the latter, since replacing the Freelander with an EV. Suddenly I can hear what the person taking the order is saying, and I suspect they can hear me better too, without a diesel thumping away in the background. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone.
2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone.
Audi A5 convertible, my daily driver.
1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project.

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Nodge68



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Manual Rimini Red

RogB wrote:
Nodge68 wrote:
Automatics don't have stop/start as an auto could suddenly start moving if the driver forgot the box was in a gear, and the engine restarted without warning.
So only manual boxed Freelander's had the feature, and only when the box was in neutral, and the clutch was up.


more modern autos have stop/start

I believe it was because the Aisin 6 speed auto box could not be configured to accommodate stop/start due to it being an early 2000's designed set up, not sure if that was because of electronic issue or mechanical though.

The early 2.2 Evoque which were basically just a FL2 in a pretty frock did have stop/start but I think the gearbox was from a different manufacturer although I could be wrong

Happy to be corrected by more mechanically minded bods on the forum though.


Yes they do. I was referring to the Freelander auto, which doesn't allow for stop/start. However the Aisin does drop to neutral at idle, to help reduce fuel consumption. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone.
2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone.
Audi A5 convertible, my daily driver.
1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project.

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MartynB



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Auto Zermatt Silver

Nodge68 wrote:
Dean1234 wrote:
It's really nice when you get to a set of lights that have just gone red to knock it out of gear, handbrake on and then relax in almost silence. Plus it's super helpful when going through drive thrus when giving your order. Laughing


I've noticed the latter, since replacing the Freelander with an EV. Suddenly I can hear what the person taking the order is saying, and I suspect they can hear me better too, without a diesel thumping away in the background.


Stop start is selective on my Hilux auto , cruise up to a red, feathering the brake and the engine keeps running , if you want to stop the engine press the pedal harder ( a message appears on the driver info screen ) , it then starts when you release the brake . On the 2025 model , a 48 v motor is going to replace the start , move the truck from the lights , with the engine taking over after road speed picks up . . Modern diesels are very quiet and I rarely engage the stop function , I’m of the opinion they’re only there to meet targets not offer any real benefit to engine longevity. , 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

2016 Subaru Outback SE 2.0 diesel SE Premium Lineartronic Sold 2024 after 8 years and 80k miles . Best Car I ever owned !

2023 Toyota Hilux invincible X 2.8 Auto .

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