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Pumpytums



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 GS Auto Alaska White
Multiple errors FL 2 won't start

Happy New year everyone.

Just tried to start 2014 SD Diesel Freelander 2, after it's sat for about 2 weeks.

The car is generating multiple errors on dash.

Transmission fault

EBD Fault

Stability control system fault

Immobiliser fault

Coolent sensor Fault

Steering locked

The car has always ran perfectly no issues whatsoever. I had the RAC out they seem to think water has got into the electrics. I think they might be correct as we have recently had massive downpours.

The guy couldn't get into the diagnostics either. Light doors alarm all seem to work start/stop flicks needles and light. Obviously it won't start or even try.

Can anyone shed any light on it please.

Post #438164 3rd Jan 2024 6:38 pm
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Dave^



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What the battery voltage? (While cranking and not cranking)

Feel around in the footwells for wetness.

Does it have a sunroof? Any actual signs of water ingress?

Post #438165 3rd Jan 2024 6:48 pm
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Pumpytums



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 GS Auto Alaska White

Thanks Dave

I will check tomorrow morning in the light.

Post #438166 3rd Jan 2024 6:52 pm
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Kot



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But the battery on charge, get a Ctek

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Pumpytums



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 GS Auto Alaska White

Hi,
Thanks for reply.

Battery is showing about 12.2V didn't bother cranking it as that seems really low.

I have a CTEK from a motorbike just put car on charge.

Fingers crossed for the morning

Thanks for your help all.

Post #438168 3rd Jan 2024 7:26 pm
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IanMetro



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 Metropolis LE Auto Fuji White

Dave^ wrote:
What the battery voltage? (While cranking and not cranking)

Feel around in the footwells for wetness.

Does it have a sunroof? Any actual signs of water ingress?


I agree with these comments because,
FL2 is very 'battery hungry' - and may need a new battery after as little as 3 years - even if the standard garage battery test says its ok.
A lot of connections are under the carpets - check floor and boot for signs of water.

If problems persist - try disconnecting power at battery and touching leads to 'hard reset modules - dry out any damp areas - reconnect battery.
If you swap the battery get a bigger capacity (that will fit) FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

Post #438169 3rd Jan 2024 8:02 pm
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Pumpytums



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Thanks Ian

Will have a look in the morning. Battery is at least 2 years old minimum.

Post #438170 3rd Jan 2024 8:19 pm
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IanMetro



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Link to good article on sunroof and its drain-pipe that disconnects and floods footwells.
https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic26799.html?highlight=sunroof

Link to my experiences with an old (but 'Kwikfit testing Good' Battery. -not quite the same problem as yours but shows battery testing may not always show real world capacity to start a heavy diesel engine whilst retaining enough voltage to power up electronics.
https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic38965.html?highlight=noco FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

Post #438173 3rd Jan 2024 10:26 pm
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Lightwater



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75AH battery is not enough for the Freelander.

In the outback 1000km from help one really neads the battery to be one less of an issue.

I have 4 x 26AH batteries for accessories which can be used for jump starting.

You will be surprised at the number of idiots in remote areas with tyres & batteries that don't work (10 year old tyres full or cracks & spare in worse shape & flat). No jumper leads, tyre repair plugs & compressor. Darwinian stuff at its best.

Fing idiots that deserve to die under 50°C situations... & no thanks when you have saved them! Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

Acoustic insulation ARB TPMS 3xARB air compressors After cooler Air tank On-board OCD pressure air/water cleaning Additional 50L fuel Carpet in doors ABE 2x1kg Waeco 28L modified fridge Battery 4x26ah Solar 120w Victron MPPT 100/20 DC-DC 18amps 175amp jumper plug Awning 6x255/60R18

Post #438174 3rd Jan 2024 11:29 pm
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Pumpytums



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 GS Auto Alaska White

Evening everyone,
Slight update.

Checked carpets in the front all dry as is boot. Car doesn't have sunroof.

Battery now shows 13V

Removed both battery cables and shorted them to reset modules.

Charged battery with CTEK it's only a 0.8A one sadly showing battery as fully charged after 24 hours.

Which is probably right as its only for upto 32Ah ones. So put it back on charge again.


All the needles flick over go back then you get steering locked comes up and dash goes blank in middle.

If you start without brake pedal you get all the random error codes transmission, EBD, ABS, immobiliser, thermostat.

You can hear the relays click when you press start but no starter doesn't even try. I believe the RAC guy got it to try to start by jumping it sadly I was at work at the time so I do t know exactly.

As previously linked battery is showing as good got report from RAC too saying its ok. Do you think it's dead or this could be the cause?

Thanks again

Post #438191 4th Jan 2024 6:17 pm
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SYFL2



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Steering column locked usually points to the lock playing up try an emulator see if it cures it.

Post #438193 4th Jan 2024 6:54 pm
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IanMetro



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IanMetro wrote:
Link to good article on sunroof and its drain-pipe that disconnects and floods footwells.
https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic26799.html?highlight=sunroof

Link to my experiences with an old (but 'Kwikfit testing Good' Battery. -not quite the same problem as yours but shows battery testing may not always show real world capacity to start a heavy diesel engine whilst retaining enough voltage to power up electronics.
https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic38965.html?highlight=noco


As you can see from my post above my battery seemed to test 'good' and charged up ok.
But it just did not have any real capacity, so I am suspicious that it may have suffered a (partial) cell failure, resulting in a high internal resistance. The symptoms of this are normally low charging current/premature full charge, and low voltage under load.

See Nodge's post in this link for advice and photo of larger installed battery
https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic38965.html?highlight=noco FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

Post #438194 4th Jan 2024 6:55 pm
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Pumpytums



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 GS Auto Alaska White

That's interesting, because my battery was initially showing a really low voltage and shows full charge when it should be no where near.

I might buy a battery to check it out. It doesn't get used right once a week then left for a week not good for battery heath.

Thanks again all for your help

Post #438195 4th Jan 2024 8:17 pm
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BossBob



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It might be worth getting hold of a battery charger to use to maintain the new battery. Land Rover have sold badged versions of Ctek battery chargers for this very purpose and use them in their showrooms.

Post #438196 4th Jan 2024 10:35 pm
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Pumpytums



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Yes definitely.

I probably killed the battery to be honest. Hopefully new battery will sort it.

I will check harness under air box for damage too.

It's concerning me that the RAC guy couldn't get into the diagnostics.

Post #438198 5th Jan 2024 8:55 am
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