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Voyager man



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Zermatt Silver

New body ordered, let’s see! 😬 Cheers Voyager man

2007 2.2 td4 auto HSE
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SYFL2



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Let me know how it goes the missis could do with one.
Post #438063 30th Dec 2023 8:37 pm
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Voyager man



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Zermatt Silver

New throttle body now fitted, all codes cleared. Still just turns over but will not fire! Reprimed fuel filter/feed etc as well!

Not showing any fault codes?

Injection pump?

Otherwise I am stumped! Cheers Voyager man

2007 2.2 td4 auto HSE
Post #438083 1st Jan 2024 3:18 pm
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Nodge68



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When was the timing belt changed?

A replacement TB needs calibration with suitable equipment, however the engine should still start as it needs to be running for a calibration to take place.

When you checked the cam for breakage, did you check the tiny drive coupling which can break?

Did you replace the crank sensor, if so did you fit the correct one (there is an early and late), and was it a reputable brand? Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone.
2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone.
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jules



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Voyager man wrote:
New throttle body now fitted, all codes cleared. Still just turns over but will not fire! Reprimed fuel filter/feed etc as well!

Not showing any fault codes?

Injection pump?

Otherwise I am stumped!


As Nodge says the HP pump is driven by one of the camshafts via a small coupling which can break.
If you've got Torgue Pro or similar which can give live common rail pressures, then if the pressure is very low during cranking then its pointing to a HP pump problem/coupling IMO.

The normal fuel pressures are in the JLR manual

However I'd have thought you'd get a low fuel pressure code; thats if there is one under these circumstances. Jules
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Voyager man



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Zermatt Silver

Cheers for the comments, cam and coupling were all good.

Will have to check crank sensor Cheers Voyager man

2007 2.2 td4 auto HSE
Post #438095 1st Jan 2024 10:33 pm
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Voyager man



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Zermatt Silver

I have iCarsoft LR v3.0 diagnostics Cheers Voyager man

2007 2.2 td4 auto HSE
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Voyager man



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Zermatt Silver

I changed the timing belt about 18 months ago Cheers Voyager man

2007 2.2 td4 auto HSE
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A bad cam sensor might not throw up a code.
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Nodge68



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Voyager man wrote:
I have iCarsoft LR v3.0 diagnostics


You should be able to pull up live data for the fuel rail while cranking it over. Live data is often more useful than codes in situations like this. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone.
2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone.
Audi A5 convertible, my daily driver.
1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project.
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Voyager man



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Zermatt Silver

Correct p/n crank sensor fitted, bought from LR parts, OEM equivalent Cheers Voyager man

2007 2.2 td4 auto HSE
Post #438101 2nd Jan 2024 9:24 am
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Are you getting an rpm reading while cranking?
Post #438103 2nd Jan 2024 10:44 am
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Voyager man



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Zermatt Silver

That’s an interesting question! I have just checked and no the rev counter is dead when the engine is cranking over! Should I check the crank sensor wiring? Any advice on this? Cheers Voyager man

2007 2.2 td4 auto HSE
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Nodge68



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If the rev counter doesn't climb off its stop, it suggests there's no engine speed data available for the ECM to pass on to the Ipack. The plugs and wiring can give trouble, I had to replace my crank sensor plug as it wasn't making secure connection with the sensors. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone.
2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone.
Audi A5 convertible, my daily driver.
1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project.
Post #438123 2nd Jan 2024 6:16 pm
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Voyager man



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Zermatt Silver

Ok, good advice, something for me to check! I did think plug and loom is in a very exposed place. Do you know if there is a repair kit? Cheers Voyager man

2007 2.2 td4 auto HSE
Post #438124 2nd Jan 2024 7:03 pm
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