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Nodge68



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I'd rather move than change my car to fit with that morons ideas. Oh I did. Laughing Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone.
2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone.
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Don’t you just love Brown Car Guy



It’s a bit long, but a lot of interesting stuff

Seems the Trafalgar Square rally was in fact last Saturday 18th, though can’t recall any coverage on the National or SE news

https://Youtube/EGyzCNH1e-o

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Don't know if this has been mentioned before, but I have just seen an interesting piece about the London mayor on YouTube. That being the person who wants everyone to either cycle, walk or use TFL to get to work. Apparently he travels to work in a £300,000 5ltr. bullet proof Range Rover which is followed by a Discovery, presumably with his secret service security detail in.
Who does this person think he is, the president of the USA.? Now at the point when I learn something new something old is lost out the other side !
Now retired so it doesn't matter anymore.
Freelander now gone.

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Sidthecat



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There’s endless items on YouTube and the like about the man.

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Sidthecat wrote:
Don’t you just love Brown Car Guy



It’s a bit long, but a lot of interesting stuff

Seems the Trafalgar Square rally was in fact last Saturday 18th, though can’t recall any coverage on the National or SE news

https://Youtube/EGyzCNH1e-o


There’s apparently another one on Saturday 15th April!

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Sidthecat



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Sadly the car’s going to be gone by then Big Cry

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dorsetfreelander



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This is interesting about the future of JLR especially Jaguar.


 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

Post #431693 12th Apr 2023 9:38 am
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Nodge68



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Unfortunately I think JLR is going to be gone in the next few years.
They've made almost zero plans for the electric future, when ICE cars are fazed out.
JLR have had plenty of opportunity to get an EV platform ready, but they're still a way off yet. They seem to be behaving like Toyota did until recently, positively rejecting the future is a BEV world, which going by global BEV sales is just a dumb move. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
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IanMetro



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I have read several articles in financial/motoring articles saying that JLR will cut down to only 20 or so Large Main Dealers, and has a radical plan to sale only EVs from 2025.

It seems that the Dealers who have invested their own money in the new posh buildings are livid.

An example
https://www.am-online.com/news/manufacture...leet-sales

May not be completely bad --- look at VOLVO. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

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John E.



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My old dealer (Land Rover since 1952!) decided to give up selling LR’s when faced with the massive investment needed to build LR’s new gin palace. They must be very relieved to get out when they did.

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dorsetfreelander



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I had the FL2 serviced at Yeovil LR last week, it used to be part of Helston garages group but is now owned by Vertu. Nothing seemed to have changed inside and the staff said that the only difference was in some business processes. However there were a lot of non JLR cars on the site around the back (I had trouble finding a parking space) and even on the forecourt. Perhaps Helston jumped ship while they could. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
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IanMetro



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This is the JLR News Page

https://media.jaguarlandrover.com/news/202...rd-quarter

They seem to be as optimistic as ever, you can select other announcements with the arrows at bottom of page.

I was unable to spot any dates for full EV production, but also I noticed that there won't be a new Technical Centre in the UK.

If you do manage to find an actual JLR announcement about it's future plans for dealers, please post a link here or in the EV Thread.

https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic38376-375.html

One good bit of news is that my 'wished for' second-hand I-Pace should get cheaper as it becomes less popular, compared with the new Far Eastern Rivals. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
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Re: Mayor Khan kills off FL2’s in London..

Farmer Chalk wrote:
New ultra low emission zone is being extended to all London Boroughs in August 2023… hence it will kill off usage of any FL2 unless the 3.2 petrol version within the M25 area.. you will have to pay £12.50 per day to use one daily…
So if you live or travel within the M25 you need to buy a new car because it will not be cost effective !

So my wife, my daughter and my father will need to sell their perfectly good cars and try and find the money to buy something else!
How is this saving the planet? [/b]


There’s still half a chance! I’ve got my fingers crossed as I’m going to have to get rid of our Diesel Golf if it goes through.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-65254544 Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
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NoDo$h



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dorsetfreelander wrote:
Perhaps Helston jumped ship while they could.


Oh, they played an absolute blinder on their timing. Virtu aren't exactly sobbing into their beer, but they will be pondering the price they paid. Current driveway contents:
2021 V60 Cross Country B5
2009 FL2 dog bus and shooting wagon

On Order: 2023 Fisker Ocean Ultra - deposit paid.

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Rommel



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Re: Mayor Khan kills off FL2’s in London..

Steve D wrote:
Farmer Chalk wrote:
New ultra low emission zone is being extended to all London Boroughs in August 2023… hence it will kill off usage of any FL2 unless the 3.2 petrol version within the M25 area.. you will have to pay £12.50 per day to use one daily…
So if you live or travel within the M25 you need to buy a new car because it will not be cost effective !

So my wife, my daughter and my father will need to sell their perfectly good cars and try and find the money to buy something else!
How is this saving the planet? [/b]


There’s still half a chance! I’ve got my fingers crossed as I’m going to have to get rid of our Diesel Golf if it goes through.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-65254544


Sign the petition.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/6...XL_nNp9riE 2013 FL2 XS.
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