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Kot



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1st purchase advice TD/SD?

First post so be kind Razz

I am looking for a 2014 freelander, for my wife, plan is for daughter to use some times to pull a small catering trailer, about horse box size maybe 1 tonne + or - a few kg.
I have seen plenty of recommendations on here for the SD4 engine, but on such a small trailer would a TD4 not be just as good? it would be just local mileage mainly.

I have seen a 14 plate TD4 GS at 45k miles at £13495 another option would be same plate but a SD4 se tech on 80k miles for £500 more.
Thoughts please.
What value is added/lost for a difference in 25k miles.
What discounts for cash can you expect?
Also what to look out for on a FL2 14 plate?

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Simon J



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The Td4 will easily pull one tonne. My loaded car trailer is about 1350 kg and you wouldn’t know it was there behind my 2008 Td4

I was going to say that the biggest problem would be the gross weight on a regular B licence but then I remembered that you lucky folks in GB have now got automatic B+E licenses!

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Bobupndown



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 GS Auto Orkney Grey

TD4 would be more than capable for the intended use but SD4 with its autobox and 190hp makes towing effortless.
Test drive both and see what you prefer. Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

2014 Orkney grey Freelander SD4 GS.
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Rommel



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England 2013 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Fuji White

TD4 will be cheaper on fuel/tax/insurance, 150 BHP is more than adequate. 2013 FL2 XS.
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Defender 90 300 TDi CSW.
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IanMetro



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 Metropolis LE Auto Fuji White

My advice is always - Buy the Latest, most Equipped, SD4 Auto Freelander that you can afford.

Make sure that it has a Good, Complete Service History.

Buy from a Trusted Source who is willing to offer a Warranty (because they believe that it will last a bit)

This subject is discussed many times on the Forum
https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic36463.html?highlight=sd4

Like most modern cars it is expensive to find any 'hidden' faults FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

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Paul4751



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Another aspect from someone who upgraded from td4 to sd4, is that both are great at towing. But the sd4 can be a bit too lively and in heavy traffic makes for a jerky ride at low speeds. I change to manual and keep it in 2nd. So another consideration is the extra goodies that come with sd4. For me that primary need was for a memory seat in full leather to suit both my wife and me.

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Bobupndown



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I have never experienced this and find my Sd4 to be smooth and responsive no matter what the traffic conditions are. Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

2014 Orkney grey Freelander SD4 GS.
2004 Zambezi silver Discovery 2 Td5 (Gone)
1963 Surf blue Morris Mini Minor Super de Luxe (my little toy)

Post #431451 5th Apr 2023 6:54 am
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Kot



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Thanks for your inputs, most welcome.
Is the auto gearbox the same in both the MY14 TD4 and MY14 SD4?

Anyone have experience on my other questions in the initial post.


What value is added/lost for a difference in 25k miles.
What discounts for cash can you expect?

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Rommel



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England 2013 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Fuji White

What to look out for ....

Service history, cambelt done? rear diff/PTU/gearbox oil changed ?also Haldex service?. front and rear subframes not rotten, 2013 FL2 XS.
Defender 90 300 TDi.
Defender 90 300 TDi CSW.
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Post #431454 5th Apr 2023 7:52 am
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Lightwater



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Ukraine 2013 Freelander 2 2.0T SE Auto Fuji White

Make sure it has a full size alloy spare wheel. You lot are notorious for supplying cars with a fart can! Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

Acoustic insulation ARB TPMS 3xARB air compressors After cooler Air tank On-board OCD pressure air/water cleaning Additional 50L fuel Carpet in doors ABE 2x1kg Waeco 28L modified fridge Battery 4x26ah Solar 120w Victron MPPT 100/20 DC-DC 18amps 175amp jumper plug Awning 6x255/60R18

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IanMetro



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Bobupndown wrote:
I have never experienced this and find my Sd4 to be smooth and responsive no matter what the traffic conditions are.


I agree that the SD4 auto is very smooth and relaxing to drive.
The torque convertor gearbox moves away in a controlled way, and part throttle gearchanges up/down are barely noticeable.

The SD4 engine has enough torque and power that it appears to ignore any extra load you carry in the car.

The FL2 is extremely impressive when you pull out of a loose surfaced lane and need to pick up speed to merge with traffic because it always starts in full 4-wheel drive.

Also, I believe, the SD4 Auto is best at providing that mini-Range Rover experience if you get a later high spec car. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

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Tip , at 9 years old the FL2 can be low mileage and look stunning in any configuration. But you have to consider condition beyond the engine . Both TD and SD will pull a 1 tonne load like it isn’t there . If you can get the car up on a lift , look at the underside . The exhausts are never an issue , I think they are stainless , but everything else is a target for corrosion . If the car has been used on a farm or shooting , or in winter , mud , salt etc is going to be a problem . Cars from high salting areas like the Pennines can deteriorate faster . Inside the wheel arches behind the lip you might have 9 years of accumulated crud , shockers rusted are a nightmare yo change , look in the spare wheel well , make sure it’s dry , if the drain grommet is missing it can rot the floor out quickly . Look at past MoT advisories for any mention of corrosion . I’m not scaremongering just being practical . 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

2016 Subaru Outback SE 2.0 diesel SE Premium Lineartronic Sold 2024 after 8 years and 80k miles . Best Car I ever owned !

2023 Toyota Hilux invincible X 2.8 Auto .

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Bobupndown



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With regards to pricing and offers, the high demand in used car market at the minute is making everything artificially high. Late high spec low mileage Freelanders are still in demand. I'd not hold out much hope for a bargain price. Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

2014 Orkney grey Freelander SD4 GS.
2004 Zambezi silver Discovery 2 Td5 (Gone)
1963 Surf blue Morris Mini Minor Super de Luxe (my little toy)

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Kot, you have pm although not sure if you can see them if you’ve only got 2 posts?

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Lightwater



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MartynB wrote:
Both TD and SD will pull a 1 tonne load like it isn’t there.

Agree. I have the petrol engine which is only 340Nm. Have had over 700kg inside the car with roof tiles 4 times. From a torque point of view you would barely know the additional mass was there.

I did notice some slight tyre instability issues but that was with the stock Continentals. The AT tyres I have now would have no issues.

In the outback we are at the 500kg payload limit. There is simply no hint of an issue of the additional mass. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

Acoustic insulation ARB TPMS 3xARB air compressors After cooler Air tank On-board OCD pressure air/water cleaning Additional 50L fuel Carpet in doors ABE 2x1kg Waeco 28L modified fridge Battery 4x26ah Solar 120w Victron MPPT 100/20 DC-DC 18amps 175amp jumper plug Awning 6x255/60R18

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