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Alex3025



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Cills

Anyone know of somewhere that sells body panels I’m looking for a passenger side sill Question

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Rommel



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Try Rimmer Bros??? 2013 FL2 XS.
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Alex3025



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£846.01 EACH

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I Like Chips



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Try SKAN AUTOMOTIVE he may be able to cut one off for you

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Rommel



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Alex3025 wrote:
£846.01 EACH




Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked 2013 FL2 XS.
Defender 90 300 TDi.
Defender 90 300 TDi CSW.
1964 MGB Roadster.
1944 Willys MB "Jeep" with bullet holes. (gone)
17 hand Irish Drought Thoroughbred (mostly lame)
Nagging Old Boiler.

Mahatma Gandhi said if there is an Idiot in power those who elected him are well represented

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a100ian



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Plus one for Skan automotive. Very helpful.

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RealBeale



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There's a guy on Ebay Germany that's selling them for 120 Euros. Obviously that's plus shipping. Might be worth asking if he's willing to ship.

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jules



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Alex3025 wrote:
£846.01 EACH


Shocked I bet they dont sell many then Jules

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Nodge68



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I personally wouldn't bother replacing structural parts on a modern vehicle, as there's absolutely no way they will be as strong as the originals. Besides if the sills are rusty enough to need replacement, then many other hidden structural components will also be weakened by rust, making the vehicle dangerous IMO. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
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jules



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@ Nodge

Cill repairs are fairly common, are they not?
In your work have you ever come across of the structural failure of the monoque that wasnt picked up by a MOT inspection ? Jules

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Just a driver



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I thought that they have been welding crashed cars and rusty cars for many years and was just common practice

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Nodge68



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jules wrote:
@ Nodge

Cill repairs are fairly common, are they not?
In your work have you ever come across of the structural failure of the monoque that wasnt picked up by a MOT inspection ?


Up to about 20 years ago, it was perfectly acceptable to weld in new sills. I've done sills on may cars from the 60s, 70s, and 80, including my own 72 Hillman Avenger sills, along with chassis rails, bulkhead repairs and inner wing replacements.
However with the advance in vehicle body structures, and increased crash worthiness, it's not so easy to simply weld in new structural components, as most modern vehicles used high strength steels (Boron steel for instance) in key areas. Yes technically is can be done, but use the wrong welding technique, or place welds in the wrong place, and a strong crash resistant body can become a not so strong body, which could deform in an impact.

The service manual for the Freelander 2 does explain what can and can't be repaired, and what welding technique to use in which area.
Also many vehicles also use special adhesives in key areas to compliment welds, although I'm not sure if the Freel2 is one of them.

Take a look in the service book for body repair procedures, and see what it says.
Me personally, I'd rather replace a modern vehicle, rather than risk an unsafe repaired one. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone.
2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone.
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1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project.

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jules



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Clearly these are not jobs for the back yard garage or a mate with an arc welder any more - you've got to know what you're doing.

Seems car restoration wont be a thing of the future. "Car SOS" etc wont exist. Jules


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Nodge68



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No, not if the work is to be carried out in a way as to not compromise the structural integrity of the body. Most body shops won't take on structural repairs on the passenger safety cell these days, as very specialised welding is needed. This is also why seemingly minor damage to the vehicle often results in the insurance company assessing a vehicle as a total loss, simply because repairs to key structural areas are expensive or impossible to complete to a satisfactory standard.

Car restoration is a dying art, but mainly due to the complete lack of classic vehicles to restore, thanks to some 100,000 of them (you wouldn't believe the vehicles involved) going to the crusher in the 2009 £1000 trade in discount on a new car. Big Cry Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone.
2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone.
Audi A5 convertible, my daily driver.
1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project.

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Just a driver



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On salvage rebuild Uk they show the motor whee they splice in a bit of cill cut off of another car. I would think it must be ok or surely they would not put it out on film what they have done

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