What if your choice removes another man's freedom?  Current driveway contents:
2021 V60 Cross Country B5
2009 FL2 dog bus and shooting wagon

On Order: 2023 Fisker Ocean Ultra - deposit paid.

Exactly, those who cannot accommodate an EV have no choice or freedom - unless you call the farce that is public transport freedom.

I was thinking of those who live in streets where unless you get home at 3pm you have no chance of parking in your own street, let alone charging your car outside your house.
Not me obviously, I'm a selfish so and so that just wants to keep my dirty polluting diesel : Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
Replaced by Ewok what a mistake - now a happy Disco Sport owner

If the EV becomes the predominant vehicle then the facilities to charge them at or very near the owners abode will need to be addressed, whether that means the road outside the house becomes legally the homeowners right to park and charge there exclusively, however security of the changing system will need to be taken into account, perhaps the need for some type of secure pod system with a vertical stacking system.
Though the governments at this time are pushing the BEV there is no guarantee it will be predominant in 20 years time and become the pariah of anti green just as the fossil fuel vehicles are today, so there will be little planning to charge millions of BEV's if there is no confidence they are here to stay, if they are here to stay then there definitely will be a problem and owners will be charged large amounts of cash to pay for the charging network in residential areas, it will fall on all owners not just those in non driveway properties and flats without parking facilities.
This is very much a heads they win, tails you lose scenario my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
2012 HSE SD4 In Orkney Grey now gone, best car ever.

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Andy131 wrote:

Exactly, those who cannot accommodate an EV have no choice or freedom - unless you call the farce that is public transport freedom.

I was thinking of those who live in streets where unless you get home at 3pm you have no chance of parking in your own street, let alone charging your car outside your house.
Not me obviously, I'm a selfish so and so that just wants to keep my dirty polluting diesel :

Andy131 wrote:

Exactly, those who cannot accommodate an EV have no choice or freedom - unless you call the farce that is public transport freedom.

Same here, if we want to get to our kids place in Pershore it costs us about (it does vary a lot) £80 - £130 each by train with three changes and takes about 6 hours, if we drive it costs us £15 and takes 4.5 hours including the two 20 minutes top up stops, which double as liquid release and tea breaks.

Public transport (buses) is a joke anywhere but the City’s and major towns. Regards

David

Lovely i6 has now gone, but not me......

Please let me know if anything in my post offends you, as I may wish to offend you again......

Andy131 wrote:

Exactly, those who cannot accommodate an EV have no choice or freedom - unless you call the farce that is public transport freedom.

Dartman the one wrote:

Though the governments at this time are pushing the BEV there is no guarantee it will be predominant in 20 years time and become the pariah of anti green just as the fossil fuel vehicles are today

At least we’ll have the poor to carry us around in our Litters though. Regards

David

Lovely i6 has now gone, but not me......

Please let me know if anything in my post offends you, as I may wish to offend you again......

So they want to take away (or at least make unpopular) our freedom of choice in how to travel, when to travel, what we can carry with us, and who we travel with, not even mentioning the means of propulsion.

They’ve already taken away your freedom of choice to travel without seatbelts on, or speed excessively, or park where you want, or shock horror kill that noisy neighbour.

You want MORE freedom?  Regards

David

Lovely i6 has now gone, but not me......

Please let me know if anything in my post offends you, as I may wish to offend you again......

I think there is a mood developing in the country based on impact of covid, and now the energy increases. We may yet see civil unrest if things turn worse. What have people got to loose?

"At least we’ll have the poor to carry us around in our Litters though"-you never know they may start witch hunts again

EVs and the greed of energy suppliers coupled with really poor infrastructure and the public perception they will be responsible for global warming unless they buy an EV wont help.

But it's not just about EV's but the whole flawed approach to net zero. The inconvenience of being forced into EV's will pale into insignificance compared to the cost of air sourced heat pumps and the massive costs of adapting houses, flats etc with the accompanying home insulation. Total madness just to reduce the world's emissions of CO2 by 0.5% or thereabouts whilst the average family could be in penury crippled by the costs imposed. Time to have a serious conversation methinks. MY 09 GS manual in Lago Grey, Wood Co arm rest and side bumper strips - now sold.

MY 15 SD4 SE Auto Orkney Grey with colour coded Bumper Door Mouldings

My daughter put in a heatpump replacing an oil fired boiler, just before everything took off, it now appears that it would be cheaper to buy a diesel generator to drive the heatpump rather than use her supplier, she is looking at a battery back up solar system but so far the so called installers are just cowboys if they are judged on the standard of their quotes.
No advice or options just we quote to supply a 4kW system with 4 kW battery, no explanation as to why and or the type of panel or make, same goes for the inverter electronics, some £4k above an online quote from a large English company with a website giving full information on panel type and make options on the type of inverter and pros and cons of the types of controller, she lives in the west of Scotland which has rather dull short winter days.
By the way with the huge increase in electricity has the feed in tariff increased? my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
2012 HSE SD4 In Orkney Grey now gone, best car ever.

On the feed-in tarif, I don’t care. I want to keep my solar generation and use it myself. If they bring in lower tarif for off peak use I charge the battery with that if there is no sun. I don’t see the point in being paid currently 5p a unit that they’ll sell back to me at 29p a unit.
Looked at eon energy’s Solar offer and there’s no islanding and little control over how the batteries are used. Found an independent solar panel fitter that gives me a system that I have control of and can run the house if the power is cut by the grid. You have to have an isolator so you don’t electrocute anyone working on anything connected to your supply.