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robblue



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United Kingdom 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Santorini Black
Rusted sea anchor / subframe

failed mot last week on my Blue fl2 s rusted and weakened rear subframe Big Cry Censored . But my subframe looks better than some on offer for sale , rushed around all last week finding a replacement car as the wife is now using hers a couple of times a week typical so have bought a 2012 fl2 xs bit of an upgrade from the fl2 s Thumbs Up Very Happy 2009 FL2 S now gone
2011 FL2 HSE AUTO
2012 FL2 XS AUTO
2000 Kawasaki er 5

Post #419163 3rd Mar 2022 11:52 am
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Richie



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 Metropolis LE Auto Loire Blue

A lot of people are using the evoque rear subframes on their FL2s now. These are cheaper and more plentiful than FL2 ones (need to ensure you get from a 4wd model though!) 2014 Metropolis in Loire Blue

2014 TD4 XS in Loire Blue (Sold)

2007 HSE in Black (Now gone!)

Post #419167 3rd Mar 2022 1:34 pm
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robblue



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United Kingdom 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Santorini Black

are the evos subframes dimensionally the same because i have looked at them and was going to get 1 , but mine is just rust /peeling paint and i think taking it off, then sand blasting and red oxide should do it as there are no rust hole in it or thinned metal .
if i do get a spare 1 i was thinking of having it galvanized and saving it for future use on my wifes Very Happy 2009 FL2 S now gone
2011 FL2 HSE AUTO
2012 FL2 XS AUTO
2000 Kawasaki er 5

Post #419168 3rd Mar 2022 2:33 pm
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MotionInc



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Canada 2008 LR2 i6 SE Auto Tambora Flame

Curious, are the Evoque rear subframes only interchangeable with certain model year FL2?

Post #419178 3rd Mar 2022 9:00 pm
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Jagracer



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Bali Blue

My local "specialist" says early Evoques with the 2.2 diesal are the same. Don't know about metal thickness, but Landrover are notorious for penny pinching.

Post #419243 6th Mar 2022 3:44 pm
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robblue



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United Kingdom 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Santorini Black

Jagracer thanks for that ,i ordered a cheap Evoque rear subframe off of ebay this morning so that i could find out if they fit or not Thumbs Up 2009 FL2 S now gone
2011 FL2 HSE AUTO
2012 FL2 XS AUTO
2000 Kawasaki er 5

Post #419245 6th Mar 2022 4:06 pm
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Mikey



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Scotland 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Baltic Blue

Be interesting to know for sure

New FL2 subframes are obsolete from LR, but if the 2.2 offerings from an Evoque are interchangeable, that'll help save a whole load of Freelanders from scrap Thumbs Up

Post #419246 6th Mar 2022 5:24 pm
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Richie



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 Metropolis LE Auto Loire Blue

My friend has just changed his for an evoque frame. Definitely fits. There were some minor differences in the geometry that were adjusted out on a hunter wheel alignment.

Only thing to watch out for is that the donor evoque is a 4wd, not a 2wd! 2014 Metropolis in Loire Blue

2014 TD4 XS in Loire Blue (Sold)

2007 HSE in Black (Now gone!)

Post #419250 6th Mar 2022 7:05 pm
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Richie



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 Metropolis LE Auto Loire Blue

Some pics my friend sent me of the job... he made a jig from his rusty fl2 subframe and used it to check the evoque frame was the same. Last pic is the evoque frame painted and ready for fitment. Has now been fotted and back on the road since january with no issues.


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 2014 Metropolis in Loire Blue

2014 TD4 XS in Loire Blue (Sold)

2007 HSE in Black (Now gone!)

Post #419251 6th Mar 2022 7:18 pm
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robblue



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United Kingdom 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Santorini Black

Cheers for that Richie , thats just what i had in mind to make a jig for bolt spacings . 2009 FL2 S now gone
2011 FL2 HSE AUTO
2012 FL2 XS AUTO
2000 Kawasaki er 5

Post #419262 7th Mar 2022 7:50 am
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Just a driver



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 SD4 GS Auto Stornoway Grey

Do the subframes all rust in the same place, like front suspension strut ton old ford escort.

Post #419292 7th Mar 2022 8:26 pm
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jules



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 SE Auto Firenze Red

Being hollow I guess the subframes rust internally too and not just from the outside. To make them last they need spraying inside.
In the past I've sprayed hot waxoil diluted with a bit of white spirit to make it flow better and used a flexible spray extension to get well inside the sub frames.
Messy, but hopefully done only once. Jules

Post #419296 7th Mar 2022 10:02 pm
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Mikey



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Scotland 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Baltic Blue

All 4wd Evoque subframes are interchangeable from 2012-2018, according to EPC Thumbs Up

Post #419301 8th Mar 2022 6:58 am
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robblue



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United Kingdom 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Santorini Black

Cool cheers Thumbs Up Bow down 2009 FL2 S now gone
2011 FL2 HSE AUTO
2012 FL2 XS AUTO
2000 Kawasaki er 5

Post #419303 8th Mar 2022 8:00 am
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Prisoner359



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Auto Tonga Green

Details from Microcat

Evoque
[url]http://new.lrcat.com/#!/12117/128657/128701/10302/128747[/url]

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Freelander/LR2
[url]http://new.lrcat.com/#!/12111/56893/56930/4578/56974[/url]

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Part numbers look different Question

Does anyone have all the data to do a table/matrix of what part numbers fit what model years??? Discovery 4 HSE - Aintree Green
Freelander 2 TD4 SE Automatic - Tonga Green
Defender XS - Tonga Green - Gone Now
Freelander 1 Td4 ES Manual - Epsom Green - Gone Now *
Freelander 1 Td4 Kalahari SE - Epsom Green - Gone Now
Freelander 1 XEi - Epsom Green - Gone Now

www.greenlandrover.uk

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