TooBlue wrote:

jules wrote:

My electricity is up 50% and due to go up more today I believe.

Why is your electric going up?

They are not going up until April.
Have you been reading the Daily Mail too much, and need to lie down.

Looks as if EVs will be soon paying their fair share of tax.

Huw Merriman, the chair of the Transport Committee, said that unless the government acts now the "loss of two major sources of motor taxation will leave a £35bn black hole" in government finances.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60251046 FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

zero road tax helps too,

Comparing the pcp of a discosport hse and an ipace, the ipace wasnt so much more per month

ipace insurance slightly more.

factor in the fueling costs and ipace total cost is cheaper /month on home charging (12000mile p.a.), obviously better if solar.

ipace is much nicer car also so thats a bonus. and the acceleration is something i cant get bored of.


charging at fast chargers would ruin the energy saving, so if thats your need probably stick to ice.


this is not factoring any taxes as mine is not a company car, and is mostly for private, so my accountant wont be able to claim it as a business expense, If she could the tax savings are huge At work
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IanMetro wrote:

Looks as if EVs will be soon paying their fair share of tax.

Huw Merriman, the chair of the Transport Committee, said that unless the government acts now the "loss of two major sources of motor taxation will leave a £35bn black hole" in government finances.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60251046

Just tell Sunak that it was a corporation swallowing the £35bn for dividends and he'll be fine and just write it off  Current driveway contents:
2021 V60 Cross Country B5
2009 FL2 dog bus and shooting wagon

On Order: 2023 Fisker Ocean Ultra - deposit paid.

Evs will catch up on tax somehow, but until then there is money to be saved.

As a rural type i dislike high fuel duty, it penalises me unfairly as its 4 miles to the nearest shop. A mile walk to the nearest bus, that only comes once a week anyway. Such Taxes should be on things that can be avoided. Im not a town dweller driving past numerous bus stops on the way to my destination. At work
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Are EVs expensive to service?
What actually is serviced? and how often?
Also as chickengeorge has indicated typically how much to ensure?

All the above are real world costs and not something average jo always considers in any vehicle never mind an EV!

LOL...above post should say insure not ensure

AT1963 wrote:

Are EVs expensive to service?
What actually is serviced? and how often?
Also as chickengeorge has indicated typically how much to ensure?

All the above are real world costs and not something average jo always considers in any vehicle never mind an EV!

Insurance is aprox 20% more than 240hp petrol DS was At work
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TooBlue wrote:

jules wrote:

chicken george wrote:

Now i drive past fuel stations and wonder how the owners can afford it.

My electricity is up 50% and due to go up more today I believe.

Why is your electric going up?

They are not going up until April.
Have you been reading the Daily Mail too much, and need to lie down.

OK I meant the announcement was "today".
I can't recall ever reading the DM, but I'll admit papers of that size are handy for cleaning paint brushes etc.  Jules

Andy131 wrote:

TooBlue wrote:

jules wrote:

My electricity is up 50% and due to go up more today I believe.

Why is your electric going up?

They are not going up until April.
Have you been reading the Daily Mail too much, and need to lie down.

sadly mine has already shot up, and yes by 40-50%. I was with Igloo, where everyone was on a cheap variable tariff, so no fixed contract. Igloo go into receivership and my account transferred to EON.

As my Metro approaches its 10th year (I have a 10year Extended Warranty), I have been getting a bit more serious about looking at a similarly sized, four wheel drive, PHEV or EV.

As I want to retain the high driving position, I have been looking at the Volvo T8 Twin Motor, Toyota RAV4 PHEV, and the Discovery Sport PHEV.
Unfortunately the height of the Jaguar I-Pace EV rules that out although, I was very impressed by its interior and driving experience. -The used I-Pace price is coming down quite quickly at the moment-

The problem I have is that as all these choices are expensive and fast (2 driven axles mean 2 motors) the cost of Motor Insurance for me would at least double to over £1.6k or more.

This to me has come as a shock as it is an annual ongoing cost, and would easily negate any fuel cost savings. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

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I know what I would do....Keep the FL2 2013 FL2 XS.
Defender 90 300 TDi.
Defender 90 300 TDi CSW.
1964 MGB Roadster.
1944 Willys MB "Jeep" with bullet holes. (gone)
17 hand Irish Drought Thoroughbred (mostly lame)
Nagging Old Boiler.

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Rommel - In the cold light of day, you are most likely right - but I do dream of owning something a bit more modern. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

Perhaps the tide is changing and EV prices will come down further.

A desperate bid to kick-start electric car demand: Fiat slashes the price of its new battery vehicles as sales dive - and bosses pen open letter to minsters calling for EV incentives

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/a-desp...1&ei=8 FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)