I'm hoping that all EV prices fall. The manufacturing costs with volume are lower than an equivalent ICE, so once all manufacturers are up to speed, and have the supply chain issues sorted, we should see the prices start to fall. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone.
2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone.
Audi A5 convertible, my daily driver.
1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project.

They may fall in real terms I.E they increase at a slower pace, but with the present financial situation in especially Europe a actual drop, no my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
2012 HSE SD4 In Orkney Grey now gone, best car ever.

Tesla are pushing prices down hard as their business model seems to be "build them at scale, build them at pace, but for goodness sake build them" followed by "er, we seem to have a lot of unsold inventory"

It's forcing the hand of other manufacturers, particularly in the US. We'll see how that flows through. Current driveway contents:
2021 V60 Cross Country B5
2009 FL2 dog bus and shooting wagon

On Order: 2023 Fisker Ocean Ultra - deposit paid.

Just read in daily express that there is a new potential tax on EVs of 6 pence per mile plus VAT!
The honeymoon period now seems over

If the government are going to put a milage tax on EVs, they would have to put it on ICE vehicles too. I'm all for paying by the mile, but it needs to be a fair system across the board, not just levied against one type of vehicle. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone.
2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone.
Audi A5 convertible, my daily driver.
1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project.

AT1963 wrote:

Just read in daily express

Words that pretty much guarantee that whatever follows is utter boarlicks  Current driveway contents:
2021 V60 Cross Country B5
2009 FL2 dog bus and shooting wagon

On Order: 2023 Fisker Ocean Ultra - deposit paid.

noDo$h, when is the Fisker Ocean Ultra due? At work
At home

"I can't always believe facts I read on the web" - Charles Dickens

winner by default of the tractor vs caravan race

Interesting article by Car Enthusiast Rowan Atkinson with a message at the end that sums up how I feel.

I tend to say that if their car is an old diesel and they do a lot of city centre motoring, they should consider a change. But otherwise, hold fire for now. Electric propulsion will be of real, global environmental benefit one day, but that day has yet to dawn.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/...n-atkinson FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

chicken george wrote:

noDo$h, when is the Fisker Ocean Ultra due?

IanMetro wrote:

Interesting article by Car Enthusiast Rowan Atkinson with a message at the end that sums up how I feel.

I tend to say that if their car is an old diesel and they do a lot of city centre motoring, they should consider a change. But otherwise, hold fire for now. Electric propulsion will be of real, global environmental benefit one day, but that day has yet to dawn.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/...n-atkinson

On BBC news last week there was a removals business owner moaning about the ULEZ in Manchester and how much he was going to have to pay as a daily rate. He was driving around in a 19 year old van (04 plate)!
I wouldn't want that driving in my city even if there was no ULEZ. Jules

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To be fair a removal lorry does not do much driving it’s sat still for most of the day loading or unloading.

OK fair enough - but old smokey diesels do no favours for those of us with more modern, cleaner diesel engines hoping to keep them for as long as possible.  Jules

Do we know it was smoking ? I know someone who runs an old erf still and that doesn’t smoke and is immaculate and very well maintained, so might be the removal lorry.

I know people who run old trucks and they all smoke like an 80s soap character.

There we go, anecdote annulled.  Current driveway contents:
2021 V60 Cross Country B5
2009 FL2 dog bus and shooting wagon

On Order: 2023 Fisker Ocean Ultra - deposit paid.