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Penrhyn



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Wales 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Auto Barolo Black
Mike Brewer - 5 cars you should never buy

Then in joint first is the Land Rover Discovery and Freelander2 Evil or Very Mad

Freelander2 l think is a brilliant 4x4 , anyways heres the piece on youtube  2008 Freelander2 SE Black SOLD
2010 Mini Cooper auto SOLD
2001 Mercedes SL500 Silver makes the above look slow 0-60 6.1 secs. 😃
2018 Mercedes GLA200 Premium Plus, got every gadget under the sun.

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SYFL2



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2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

I’ve watched that before and he does have a point.

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trw999



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England 2007 Freelander 2 i6 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

And yet.

Reportedly the FL2 is the most reliable LR ever built.

Certainly talking about this to some LR technicians at our local dealership, they rate the FL2 in terms of high reliability, especially compared to the more modern LR offerings.

Tim

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merlinj79



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Location: San Diego
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United States 2008 LR2 i6 S Auto Tambora Flame

He has a point, if you buy a 100K+ FL2 that's only had the JLR specified maintenance.

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GJH0702



Member Since: 04 Sep 2011
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United Kingdom 2011 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Sumatra Black

Strange that he drives a Discovery 4 on his Wheeler Dealer TV programme! 2011 XS,Sumatra Black, GONE MARCH 2014- RR Evoque Prestige 5 door ,MY 2014,Loire Blue, Silver Roof, Panoramic roof.
MY 2016 Disco Sport HSE Auto Scotia Grey,REJECTED
Mercedes E220D AMG line with air suspension(Gone)
DS 200 SE Dynamic my 21 (Gone)
DS 200 SE Dynamic my 22 (Gone)
Audi Q5 40TDI S line (gone)
Discovery Sport D200 S 2024 MY

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Dave47



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Location: Margate Kent
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United Kingdom 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Auto Izmir Blue

Not very constructive in his criticism, as to why! Rolling Eyes DAVE.

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ARHill



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Scotland 2011 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Galway Green

Last time I looked he was still endorsing the sale of magic pills as an everlasting sludge-gathering fuel additive. And such statistics as he has are very anecdotal. I’ve been driving Astras since the 1980s and an FL2 since 2010 and to describe either as inherently unreliable simply doesn’t reflect my experience at all.

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Smallmankey



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Wales 2013 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Mauritius Blue

He is a used car salesman so couldn't trust a thing he says! Andrew

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bxzx16v



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England 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 Sport Auto Barolo Black

Never had any real bother with any of the three Freelanders we owned or the 1.0 ecoboost Bmax which has been in the family for the best part of 6 years ( fantastic engine imo )

Mark 2009 FL2 TD4 SE (Sadly gone)
2007 FL2 TD4 GS (The wifes , gone after 8 great years)
2012 FL2 SD4 SPORT LE(Gone and missing it)
2015 DISCOVERY SPORT 2.2SD4 HSE (Now gone)
2014 Ford Bmax 1.0 ecoboost ( Gone but what next )
2014 Ford Focus 2.0tdci Zetec S (Gone,but what a car)
2020 Ford Fiesta ActiveX 1.0 Ecoboost
2024 Skoda Kodiaq 1.5 Tsi SEL

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DaveS



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United Kingdom 2013 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Lux Auto Santorini Black

Fairly general guidance and probably not too far off the mark. He needs to tidy his kitchen though. SD4 HSE Lux
Yeti 170 DSG L&K
Freelander 1 Td4 Overlander

Past: Freelander Metropolis, D3, D3, D2, Series 3, Series 3, Freelander 1 (still have this one bought new, the Monte Carlo blue kid)

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Bobupndown



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 GS Auto Orkney Grey

He is a tw@t. Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

2014 Orkney grey Freelander SD4 GS.
2004 Zambezi silver Discovery 2 Td5 (Gone)
1963 Surf blue Morris Mini Minor Super de Luxe (my little toy)

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IanMetro



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 Metropolis LE Auto Fuji White

He is not very specific in his criticism, and doesn't give any facts.

True several user surveys class JLR near the bottom of the reliability tables, but the FL2 was developed in its Ford days and seem a very good product.
The main problems will occur as they get older, proper parts become scarce, and are maintained on the cheap.

Its a pity Mike Brewer didn't ask me as I have had 2 FL2s over the last 9 years (110k+ miles), and the only unplanned servicing has been the 'known problem' of the fuel gauge wiring (near the tank).

I think the later model FL2s will be future classics.

PS - Who said I'm biased? FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

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MartynB



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Auto Zermatt Silver

Conversely, in the nearly 10 years and 30,000 miles that we owned a Freelander 2 it was probably £ for £ the worst vehicle I’ve ever owned for major component failure and cost . Obviously because of the length of time and low mileage ( bought at 30k sold at 60k ) the costs were spread over those years . If those costs had been spread over a normal 10k/3 year mileage they’d have been crippling . Having said that for the last 30 years of my working life I ran some pretty expensive company cars and there were some major issues with prestige brands . 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

2016 Subaru Outback SE 2.0 diesel SE Premium Lineartronic Sold 2024 after 8 years and 80k miles . Best Car I ever owned !

2023 Toyota Hilux invincible X 2.8 Auto .

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Badger51



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Australia 

Bobupndown wrote:
He is a tw@t.


& that pic makes him look even more of one Rolling with laughter (Now Sold). 2008 Freelander 2 (Nazca Sand) SE TD4 Auto. Statutory write off & on WOVR for hail damage but still road legal.
171037Km as of 09/05/22
Superchips Bluefin Flash
Nanocom Evo II (also sold)

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MikesFreelander



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Scotland 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Alaska White

He bugs me, why does he call a land rover a lamb rover ????
Is he calling them a sheep dog ???

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