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MotionInc



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Canada 2008 LR2 i6 SE Auto Tambora Flame

Thanks Paul. I did eventually get to the F3 80A fuse that controls the "cooling fan", was a PITA but a flat tip screwdriver and some patience eventually popped the secondary cover...........the fuse was fine. Traced the problem to the electric motor for the original LR fan and shroud. Ordered and picked up the Volvo dual fan and module today and will re & re tomorrow morning with skilled help. I was lucky as the fan may have been running intermittent for a while and, even though the engine never overheated, I noticed the temp had risen on my Torque Pro app to about 103-106 degrees F when I had the A/C on and knew something was not right.

As most things in life, timing is everything: I was able to buy today, 31686808 at a local Volvo dealer online (and in stock a few deep BTW) and got it, using your 2010 S80 VIN, for $532 CDN plus taxes. I picked it up and it's sitting in the back of the LR2 for tomorrow morning..........you Sir ROCK for testing the substitute Volvo parts!

Now, I am going to do some research on the shortest fastest removal & install..........I did not buy the intake manifold gaskets as I had just replaced them less than 8-9 months ago. Thumbs Up

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p_gill



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United States 2008 Freelander 2 i6 SE Auto Tambora Flame

Motion,

That's great news.

When I replaced my fan on my LR2 I didn't move the transmission heat exchanger to the side.

This was a mistake that I corrected when doing the job on my S80.

Note: for the heat exchanger there are 4 connections and a mounting screw.

I removed the mounting screw

Disconnected the upper coolant hose and lower coolant hose

I didn't remove the transmission fluid lines

This was enough to move the heat exchanger out of the way

I didn't disconnect the AC compressor but if I did it today I may do this to move the AC lines out of the way

The R&R for the fan is very challenging.

If you remove the intake manifold then you should have lots of room
(I didn't do this)

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Removing the AC compressor should help but I didn't do this

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Disconnecting the power steering line may make it easier (I didn't do this)



I did disconnect the heat exchanger as described above

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Let us know what you determine is the right path

Take care

Paul

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MotionInc



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Canada 2008 LR2 i6 SE Auto Tambora Flame

WOW Paul, thank you! The above post helps greatly Thumbs Up . I will remove the intake manifold as well as I had done it when I changed the thermostat and the little Censored of a hose that cracked. Right now I am having a look at this video:


I will most def post the path that worked best for me and hopefully I can get time for pics.

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MotionInc



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Canada 2008 LR2 i6 SE Auto Tambora Flame

Well, the re & re was both good and ............................"involved". We did not remove the trans cooler nor the A/C compressor but did remove the manifold and the fuel rail.......changed the o rings on the injectors while we were at it. The Volvo dual rad fan fit like a dream and works as advertised. We did remove the A/C lines after evacuating the system but might have damaged the low side schrader valve inadvertently as it has developed a leak. Embarassed

Priced the low side from Landy but I think the parts guy at day's end must have been tired as he quoted me $200+ CDN for just the high side valve..........holy moly. Will call in the morning and confirm with my regular contact if that price is right as the ETA won't be until Saturday regardless.

We did clean the throttle body again while we were at it and I also ordered the o ring for the coolant line from the overflow tank to the head. This is not an easy job and it might just be easier to change the A/C compressor belt and tensioner if ever doing this fan "upgrade". The Volvo dual fan is "plug & play".

No pics, long day and we had a hoist to speed things along. Bow down

Maybe I can source the Schrader valves from Ford as LR's price, if right, is pure nutZ!


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merlinj79



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United States 2008 LR2 i6 S Auto Tambora Flame

MotionInc wrote:
I was lucky as the fan may have been running intermittent for a while and, even though the engine never overheated,


That's what mine did too. The shop first replaced the control module because the fan workd fine at room temp.

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MotionInc



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Schrader valves ordered from LR, dayum!!! Big Cry Whistle

@merlinj79, we put power directly to the fan connection on the old shroud...............no spinnie!!!! Electric motor Kaput! Should get them tomorrow per LR but who knows because they sure don't!

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p_gill



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Motion,

you are now officially a member of the "Keeping my Land Rover Forever" Club

Welcome

Paul

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MotionInc



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Thanks Paul, my previous vehicle I had new from day 1 with less than 3 kms on it and I kept it mint and maintained for 21 years..........then, I hit black ice late November 2018, Big Cry , and she flipped and rolled twice while saving my life ( I should have been in 4 wheel drive but was not). It was a 1997 3.4L 4Runner SR5, 5 speed stick with rear diff lock & tow package. She could almost go anywhere.................almost! Thumbs Up

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MotionInc wrote:
Schrader valves ordered from LR, dayum!!! Big Cry Whistle

@merlinj79, we put power directly to the fan connection on the old shroud...............no spinnie!!!! Electric motor Kaput! Should get them tomorrow per LR but who knows because they sure don't!


That's what my shop did, it spun fine so they thought it was the module. Turned out it didn't spin very well after it got hot though.

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MotionInc



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I actually salvaged the old module but I will have to test it with a meter. Sadly, the old module has two outputs but.............the unused one has no actual pinouts!

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p_gill



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MotionInc wrote:
Thanks Paul, my previous vehicle I had new from day 1 with less than 3 kms on it and I kept it mint and maintained for 21 years..........then, I hit black ice late November 2018, Big Cry , and she flipped and rolled twice while saving my life ( I should have been in 4 wheel drive but was not). It was a 1997 3.4L 4Runner SR5, 5 speed stick with rear diff lock & tow package. She could almost go anywhere.................almost! Thumbs Up


Sorry to hear about the 4-runner

Glad to hear that you are ok.


I bought my LR2 in 2008 on the Ides of March

What could possibly go wrong, its a Land Rover and I can't remember anything bad ever happening on the Ides of March

Laughing Laughing Laughing

Some may say that I am tempting fate

But I disagree

I don't believe that Fate is plotting our demise.

Rather I believe that Fate is what happens to you when you somehow avoid what was suppose to happen to you.

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MotionInc wrote:
Schrader valves ordered from LR


Motion,

I had a very slow leak on the high side so I modified the quick connector to be used as a cap.

The modification destroyed the quick connector. (Note: the connector bent my Schrader valve and it had to be done)

I bought an improved design that is less aggressive on the Schrader valve.

This is what it looked like before modification

Low side shown but High side is similar




I did take it apart and I cut off the pin that presses the valve (so now its just a cap)




And I Tapped the Brass and installed a bolt with a Dowty washer

Here is the finished product








I just noticed that Amazon sells a tool to remove the Schrader valve without letting all of the gas out

I may need to do this


If I figure out the size of the Schrader valve I will let you know


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085VGN791/?coli..._lig_dp_it

Thanks

Paul

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MotionInc



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@p_gill.......................your mod, Thumbs Up

LR got the schrader valves today..........I will pick them up Monday and put them in, going for a frosty 7.9 degrees!!!! I may as well............them there valves are a small fortune! Bow down

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