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BossBob



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axle wrote:
Thanks guys, sorry for slow reply broadband problem.
The subframe has to come off Shocked Shocked Shocked
Changed to my summer wheels and the drone is the same.
Anybody know how much bell charges for diff and heldex replacement?


£1085 + VAT for both exchange units. Website here https://www.bellengineering.co.uk/ £180 to fit a diff or service a Haldex. Had a diff diagnosed, swapped and Haldex service a couple of years ago. Was able to watch the process.

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axle



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Thanks Bob, i should have checked myself Banging Head
Apparently it's the input seal leaking on the rack which can't be replaced. Common sense isn't very common.
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axle



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Got a local garage doing the steering rack and hopefully Bell doing the diff and heldex for total of 2k...saving of 3.5k Shocked Very Happy Common sense isn't very common.
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Balderick



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I did the diff last year. Bought on ebay and added the optional drain for easier servicing of the diff instead of the daft single fill/drain as standard. It was an exchange unit with 12month warranty. At least on Ebay you do get to see reviews. i f they are not 99% positive then go elsewhere. The haldex was stripped down, cleaned out and serviced at the same time. Well worth doing, it was mess.

Why the diff started to fail I don't really know. I tow a heavy caravan and have read somewhere about the compression on the rear tyre making the profile go out of shape, stressing the bearings which we all know are made from Maltesers. I will look into spring supports now travelling is a realistic and legal prospect again.

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Dartman the one



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With a maximum noseweight of 250kg under limited conditions spring assisters are not needed, provided you are within maximum rear axle loading there should be no problems. Freelanders are as all LR vehicles designed to tow unlike most 4 X 4 which can tow my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
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jules



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Balderick wrote:
I did the diff last year. Bought on ebay and added the optional drain for easier servicing of the diff instead of the daft single fill/drain as standard. It was an exchange unit with 12month warranty. At least on Ebay you do get to see reviews. i f they are not 99% positive then go elsewhere. The haldex was stripped down, cleaned out and serviced at the same time. Well worth doing, it was mess.

Why the diff started to fail I don't really know. I tow a heavy caravan and have read somewhere about the compression on the rear tyre making the profile go out of shape, stressing the bearings which we all know are made from Maltesers. I will look into spring supports now travelling is a realistic and legal prospect again.


What's your caravan's nose weight when loaded for towing?.

Obviously when braking the rear will be pushed down but the FL2 should have a near normal attitude when stationary.
If your tyres are being heavily distorted then your caravan is not balanced properly. Jules

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Bobupndown



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What sort of spring assistors are you considering? Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

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Nodge68



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Balderick wrote:
I did the diff last year. Bought on ebay and added the optional drain for easier servicing of the diff instead of the daft single fill/drain as standard. It was an exchange unit with 12month warranty. At least on Ebay you do get to see reviews. i f they are not 99% positive then go elsewhere. The haldex was stripped down, cleaned out and serviced at the same time. Well worth doing, it was mess.

Why the diff started to fail I don't really know. I tow a heavy caravan and have read somewhere about the compression on the rear tyre making the profile go out of shape, stressing the bearings which we all know are made from Maltesers. I will look into spring supports now travelling is a realistic and legal prospect again.


Rear axle load has little or nothing to do with diff failure.
After studying the design, it's a combination of factors causing this issue, none of them to do with vehicle load, or the Haldex. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
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Andy131



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Weight of the caravan should have little effect on the down-force on the rear of the car, the bigger vans are twin axle so should be better not worse. Ours is roughly 1400kg I deliberately go for maximum down-force allowed by the caravan manufacturer (120kg), dragged the van all over Europe, never missed a beat, even going up some bleeding mountain in San Sebastian the wrong way - very steep, lots of hairpins, got a round of applause from the campsite staff when they saw us coming from the wrong direction.

DON'T ever trust LR satnav. Censored

I know this is not helpful but some diffs do just not last, while some are easily up to the job even when abused, maybe oil change is the only answer. Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
Replaced by Ewok what a mistake - now a happy Disco Sport owner

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axle



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Got the steering rack done by a local indie for £600.00 fully fitted plus £250.00 for the clock spring at the top of the rack replaced.
Bell Engineering replaced the rear diff and checked the heldex which was fine, no noise now so i presume the bearings in the propshaft and the rear wheels are fine.
Had the engine, front diff and gearbox oils and filters changed.
Total cost £2000.00 saving of £3500.00
Happy boy Very Happy Common sense isn't very common.
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SYFL2



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That’s pretty much sorted now Thumbs Up

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