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Sperly



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Not really, no.

Bankers (and Governments) used it as a convenient excuse, just to jog your memory....
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Tigger



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I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make.
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Tigger wrote:
Dartman the one wrote:
Yes easy those that wish to make the money will exaggerate the effect of the crisis ( if it is) with the help of the media having slowly disposed of their assets into cash only need two or three to get it going by dumping selected shares.


If you really feel that it’s that easy, you should give it a go and let us know how you get on...

It is easy if you have the amount of shares to play with, I don't but a run on Sterling some time ago was put down to one man dumping Sterling apparently at a loss only to buy some months later to start recovery, made over £100,000,000.
I am not saying the virus was started to cause a crash, just that it was a convenient to start a crash using the virus as a reason my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
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Post #387610 5th Mar 2020 7:25 am
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Largered



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Read this ...... it's alarming.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-51733145

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As mentioned earlier, businesses will use it as a convenient excuse to mask poor management performance.

The collapse of FlyBe (who have been in trouble for well over a year) and the Directors blaming "coronavirus" is a case in point.

Expect many more "merchant bankers" to follow the same blame culture...
Post #387620 5th Mar 2020 10:05 am
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Largered



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It is called "Good Time to Bury Bad News"
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Boxbrownie



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Tigger wrote:
Dartman the one wrote:
Why do all these new viruses eminate from China...


Because they tend to have a great number if people working and living in very cramped conditions with a great variety of (relatively exotic) animals in uncontrolled and often unsanitary conditions, usually for human consumption, giving plenty of opportunity for diseases to find a way to cross the species barriers. The facts are horrific enough, there’s no need to find conspiracy theories to help to explain it.


That’s what I said Rolling with laughter Regards

David

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Boxbrownie wrote:
Tigger wrote:
Dartman the one wrote:
Why do all these new viruses eminate from China...


Because they tend to have a great number if people working and living in very cramped conditions with a great variety of (relatively exotic) animals in uncontrolled and often unsanitary conditions, usually for human consumption, giving plenty of opportunity for diseases to find a way to cross the species barriers. The facts are horrific enough, there’s no need to find conspiracy theories to help to explain it.

That’s what I said Rolling with laughter

Sounds a bit like the British Parliament! Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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Tigger wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
The media are all over this doomsday scenario but is it as bad as the headlines suggest? I have heard many dismiss it because it does not do as much damage as the old school flu each winter.

What's everyone's thoughts?...


It’s worth bearing in mind that the average mortality rate for seasonal flu is around 0.1% of those infected.

The figures for Corona virus are still being refined, but are likely to be around 1.0% according to the U.K. Gov., with rates in the worst effected areas of China at around 3-4%. These figures are evolving all the time as more data becomes available, but this is at least 10 times the fatility rate of seasonal flu.


From what I've read if you are under 80 and no health issues then it isn't a problem, over 80 have diabetes, heart problems or respiratory problems then it is serious. Flu is problematic for young and old as well as those pregnant; there is a view that children aren't susceptible to this virus, but I don't know if that is hearsay like it is much worse in cold countries. D4 HSE Lux for me
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Boxbrownie



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First UK death announced just now Neutral Regards

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The elderly patient had underlying health issues Whistle Whistle Whistle
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pelyma wrote:


From what I've read if you are under 80 and no health issues then it isn't a problem, over 80 have diabetes, heart problems or respiratory problems then it is serious. Flu is problematic for young and old as well as those pregnant; there is a view that children aren't susceptible to this virus, but I don't know if that is hearsay like it is much worse in cold countries.


Not only those groups, any age of person with low immunodeficiency will be at serious risk, Mrs BB has been having big problems with her RA since last year, her bloods have been dangerously low at times due to other drug reactions, it is cause for some concern but not PANIC. Regards

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Jack frost wrote:
The elderly patient had underlying health issues Whistle Whistle Whistle


Yes they had been in and out of hospital with an existing pre-condition over the last few weeks......still a statistic I think you’ll agree? Regards

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Tigger



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pelyma wrote:
From what I've read if you are under 80 and no health issues then it isn't a problem, over 80 have diabetes, heart problems or respiratory problems then it is serious.


I’ve not read anything remotely like that from any credible source. Where are you getting this stuff from?
Post #387684 5th Mar 2020 7:40 pm
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Tigger



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Sperly wrote:
As mentioned earlier, businesses will use it as a convenient excuse to mask poor management performance.

The collapse of FlyBe (who have been in trouble for well over a year) and the Directors blaming "coronavirus" is a case in point.

Expect many more "merchant bankers" to follow the same blame culture...


Of course the business was struggling, it made no secret of that, but an overnight collapse in their order book finally pushed them over the edge.

With 2,000 people now out of work, a lot of businesses facing bad debt and a useful and unique service now lost, I don’t think it’s helpful to make sweeping generalisations like this for political point scoring.
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