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J77Have you downloaded the app?

Was unaware of it till now! Dealers not mentioned nothing to me  MY14 Kahn Converted Dynamic - Fuji White Ebony/Pimento Interior
MY15 Xenon Headlight Conversion

MY17 RRS SVR - Estoril Blue Cirrus/Ebony 🪣💺’s

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/art...-film.html

I see Smyths are selling new, all electric defenders quite reasonably.  Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

2014 Orkney grey Freelander SD4 GS.
2004 Zambezi silver Discovery 2 Td5 (Gone)
1963 Surf blue Morris Mini Minor Super de Luxe (my little toy)

07/01/2020

https://www.carbuyer.co.uk/news/164959/202...t-ces-show

2020 Land Rover Defender technology

If you’re used to the previous Defender, you might be taken aback by the sheer amount of technology fitted to the new car. Land Rover has used the 2020 CES show in Las Vegas to showcase some of the car’s features, which include surround-view cameras and dual-eSIM modem connectivity. The latter has never been seen on a car before, and allows the 10-inch Pivi Pro infotainment system to stream music and download app updates at the same time, without a noticeable difference in loading times and system usability.

This technology is always on, thanks to a dedicated auxiliary battery, while the infotainment system and digital instrument cluster use the same operating system as Blackberry smartphones. There’s a new mobile app that you can use to preset the climate control before you get in the car, among other things.

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I can't help but wish them luck with this although it's clearly aimed at the Chelsea tractor market where the money is. For me more technology means more things to go wrong and if you are in the middle of Africa you need less not more. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

The problem is that with all the regulations relating to clean air, accident performance, mandatory speed limiters w.e.f. 2022

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/news/motoring-...-limiters/

and the like cars get more & more complex with each iteration.

NJSS

Just remembering how dog slow, rough, polluting and noisy diesels used to be before so much electronic technology was thrown at them

My first new diesel was fairly low tech, N Reg, 1.9 litre Peugeot, which produced 67 bhp, but felt like a great deal less!

Very off-topic

My first new diesel car was a 1983 Peugeot 205 diesel.

NJSS

Then you'll probably know exactly what I mean

(Mine was a 405 estate and I hated it )

My Defender 300tdi was slow and polluting but very reliable, no over complicated electronic gubbins that are the blight of modern cars. 94 Disco 300 TDI Gone
96 Defender 300 TDI Gone...Should have kept it.
2003 Freelander ES TD4 Gone
2002 Defender TD5 Gone
2005 Freelander HSE TD4 Gone
2015 Freelander 2 Metropolis Keeping for now!

My first Diesel was this ex Military 2.5 NAD. Even more basic. Used to run it on a 50/50 mix of diesel and vegetable oil when vegetable oil when it cost about £1.29 for 3 litres. The looks I used to get on Asda car park filling up with 30 litres , before topping up with diesel at their petrol station.

Tigger wrote:

Then you'll probably know exactly what I mean

(Mine was a 405 estate and I hated it )

We gave our daughter our old BX TZD.....same engine but nicely turbo charged and in a lighter vehicle, she didn’t like the idea at first thinking the car was a bit “old” for her, after the first drive in it she absolutely loved it  Regards

David

Lovely i6 has now gone, but not me......

Please let me know if anything in my post offends you, as I may wish to offend you again......

Not sure Land Rover have got it quite right with the new Defender

 2007 TD4 XS The work horse that earns its up keep
2013 SD4 HSE The posh one for towing the caravan
1973 Triumph Stag I bought in 2009 and restored.

first we had mobile phones turning inti computers noe we have Land Rovers turning into mobile phones

Largered wrote:

07/01/2020

https://www.carbuyer.co.uk/news/164959/202...t-ces-show

2020 Land Rover Defender technology

If you’re used to the previous Defender, you might be taken aback by the sheer amount of technology fitted to the new car. Land Rover has used the 2020 CES show in Las Vegas to showcase some of the car’s features, which include surround-view cameras and dual-eSIM modem connectivity. The latter has never been seen on a car before, and allows the 10-inch Pivi Pro infotainment system to stream music and download app updates at the same time, without a noticeable difference in loading times and system usability.

This technology is always on, thanks to a dedicated auxiliary battery, while the infotainment system and digital instrument cluster use the same operating system as Blackberry smartphones. There’s a new mobile app that you can use to preset the climate control before you get in the car, among other things.

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Tigger wrote:

We gave our daughter our old BX TZD.....same engine but nicely turbo charged and in a lighter vehicle, she didn’t like the idea at first thinking the car was a bit “old” for her, after the first drive in it she absolutely loved it

You’re right about the BX being lighter and making a lot of difference, while even the 405 was transformed with a turbocharger Plus, those wonderful Citroen hydraulics