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gavmoulds



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Confusing Judder

Hi all. Prob been discussed under 'Fuel Pump' issues. I have the occasional high speed judder which to the no mechanic appears to be slight fuel starvation. I have replaced the Fuel Filter and IN tank fuel pump.

Judder still there. Im wondering if it could be some sort of sensor such as cranks ahft sensor or something like that. Maybe even MAF.

Doesnt seem to have any fault codes.
Post #374946 13th Jul 2019 11:58 am
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SYFL2



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Could it be a dodgy dose of fuel ?
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gavmoulds



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Ive driven over a thousand miles........think Ive safely iliminated that one...thanks.
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Badger51



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Re: Confusing Judder

gavmoulds wrote:
Hi all. Prob been discussed under 'Fuel Pump' issues. I have the occasional high speed judder which to the no mechanic appears to be slight fuel starvation. I have replaced the Fuel Filter and IN tank fuel pump.

Judder still there. Im wondering if it could be some sort of sensor such as cranks ahft sensor or something like that. Maybe even MAF.

Doesnt seem to have any fault codes.


To my mind, it all depends how the 'judder' manifests itself. If it feels as if the ignition has been momentarily switched off, then almost certainly it will be the CPS (crank position sensor). If on the other hand it is a constant loss of power, then more likely to be a sticky turbo actuator.

Good luck with it.

Nick (Now Sold). 2008 Freelander 2 (Nazca Sand) SE TD4 Auto. Statutory write off & on WOVR for hail damage but still road legal.
171037Km as of 09/05/22
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Nanocom Evo II (also sold)
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Paul4751



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gavmoulds wrote:
Ive driven over a thousand miles........think Ive safely iliminated that one...thanks.


Had an old RR once where similiar problems only occurred when the fuel tank was low, the pump was getting clogged by debris at the bottom of fuel tank. Had to get tank drained and cleaned in Amiens, France.
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gavmoulds wrote:
Ive driven over a thousand miles........think Ive safely iliminated that one...thanks.


Had an old RR once where similiar problems only occurred when the fuel tank was low, the pump was getting clogged by debris at the bottom of fuel tank. Had to get tank drained and cleaned in Amiens, France.
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Double posting from Paul, just in case you missed the fact that he used to have a RR Wink
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Badger51



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I'd assumed it happened twice... Rolling with laughter (Now Sold). 2008 Freelander 2 (Nazca Sand) SE TD4 Auto. Statutory write off & on WOVR for hail damage but still road legal.
171037Km as of 09/05/22
Superchips Bluefin Flash
Nanocom Evo II (also sold)
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gavmoulds



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Judder

I think we may be looking at CPS...anyone have a diagram of where this mysterious thing is located.

Is it plug and go or does it then need to be synced via the ecm or something daft.
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Badger51



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Remove R/H front wheel, remove fwd wheel arch liner & you will see it next to the crankshaft pulley. One electrical connector & one bolt to remove. Plug & play, no programming required.

Good luck with it.

Nick (Now Sold). 2008 Freelander 2 (Nazca Sand) SE TD4 Auto. Statutory write off & on WOVR for hail damage but still road legal.
171037Km as of 09/05/22
Superchips Bluefin Flash
Nanocom Evo II (also sold)
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Mikey



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I've seen a few Auto's judder under load, caused by dirty oil. Same symptoms and feeling as the 6HP gearboxes suffer from with a worn torque converter

An oil flush has cured them all, but would need to eliminate any other causes first Thumbs Up
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Did you resolve this in the end? I have the same issue.
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it was 9 years ago, its probably still with the main dealer Wink 2013 Freelander 2 TD4 GS
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GWFBrown



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Hi
I had that problem, and solved it with a new CPS - Cheap & easy to fit.
Gordon
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