Tigger wrote:

If LR still made the FL2, would you have just had another?

Tigger wrote:

An XC60 it is then ( just don’t be tempted by the “Twin engine” ).

If LR still made the FL2, would you have just had another?

Probably not - there is absolutely nothing wrong with my present car it does everything I ask of it and has been utterly reliable I am just BORED with it and want a change - but with some of the benefits of FL2 ownership
Someone will be getting a good buy when I come to dispose of it - I hope its replacement proves as good that's why I am "pfaffing" around No Longer the owner of a 2013MY Fuji White GS

"Fiat Lux" a philosophy not a car

Isn’t it odd how you can really like a car and then, all of a sudden, it gets boring and it’s time for a change. Been there! Never with a LR though...

If what you’ve got sis running just fine, at least there’s absolutely no hurry and you can take your time to enjoy the hunt

We had the last Defender for 13 or 14 years , we’ve had the FL2 for 8 of it’s 10 year life . On retiring I bought the Scooby in which I’ve done 40k in 3 years , and I’ll probably keep that for years . I suppose I’m lucky I don’t get bored , to me cars are just a means to an end and replacement is just a chore . When did my pre retirement shopping I did try a few Volvos , and I must say the seats, cabins and general ergonomics were outstanding . I hated VAG garages as they are just there to sell finance deals . The only thing at the moment that would get me to chip in the FL2 is an ISUZU pickup with the Huntsman pack  2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

2016 Subaru Outback SE 2.0 diesel SE Premium Lineartronic Sold 2024 after 8 years and 80k miles . Best Car I ever owned !

2023 Toyota Hilux invincible X 2.8 Auto .

I sold my 2008 HSE 2 years ago and got a VW Tiguan. Although it does everything I need it to, it doesn't set my heart on fire.
I also, have to agree with the comment about VW dealers, as I am regularly being contacted with invites to look at the latest deals.

I miss not having a Freelander, so much so,that I keep looking a Autotrader,and I am considering getting another one next year.

"I also, have to agree with the comment about VW dealers, as I am regularly being contacted with invites to look at the latest deals.
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Its not just VW dealers - I keep receiving invites to look at the latest models from my local JLR dealership - Ive not been there since I bought the car 41/2 years ago. Jules

The problem I have with VAG garages is the fact that all they want to do is sell finance . I’m sitting in nigh on £40, 000 worth of TT and I’m a cash buyer . I asked about a discount , I’m told that the only way is a “ contribution “ to a finance plan . I offer the opinion that if I did take a plan out I’d cancel it and pay the balance so let’s cut out the bit in-between . The salesman could not have been less interested , not while he could flog cars to people who were less credit worthy than my cat.

Subaru are the opposite end of the scale , the typical buyer self finances , keeps the car 7 years , and the sales guys are used to dealing with people who are buying rather than being “ sold to “ .

I’ve just had an invite to drive the new petrol” light self charging hybrid” Forester , if I take it up there will be no pressure, as an existing customer they know there is a very high probability that I’ll be back in year 7 . A different way of treating customers . 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

2016 Subaru Outback SE 2.0 diesel SE Premium Lineartronic Sold 2024 after 8 years and 80k miles . Best Car I ever owned !

2023 Toyota Hilux invincible X 2.8 Auto .

I've always been a cash buyer. Have you tried at the end of the month when they are looking for sales to meet targets to get bonuses!

Subaru Forester hybrid: https://www.caradvice.com.au/662654/2019-s...australia/ Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

Acoustic insulation ARB TPMS 3xARB air compressors After cooler Air tank On-board OCD pressure air/water cleaning Additional 50L fuel Carpet in doors ABE 2x1kg Waeco 28L modified fridge Battery 4x26ah Solar 120w Victron MPPT 100/20 DC-DC 18amps 175amp jumper plug Awning 6x255/60R18

Deleted MY 09 GS manual in Lago Grey, Wood Co arm rest and side bumper strips - now sold.

MY 15 SD4 SE Auto Orkney Grey with colour coded Bumper Door Mouldings

Never been a cash buyer - joint bank account so never got any cash

But yes I did walk into several dealerships around the 28th of November a couple of years ago looking for a replacement for the Ewok. Got a call on the 30th from a dealer some way away, I have the perfect car for you sir and we can do a deal.

SO I get there and it's a low mileage DS with all the toys including electric towball but in grey (Gill wanted grey), but too expensive. we knock him down as far as we could, were walking away and he came up with a plan. I pay the HP and the dealership pay me back £50 a month !!
I'll give Farnells there due, they have paid the cash back as promised, and I do have a very nice LR to drive around in.

I'm happy, Gills happy, and they got a sale in the afternoon of the last day of the month. Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
Replaced by Ewok what a mistake - now a happy Disco Sport owner

Lightwater wrote:

I've always been a cash buyer. Have you tried at the end of the month when they are looking for sales to meet targets to get bonuses!

Subaru Forester hybrid: https://www.caradvice.com.au/662654/2019-s...australia/

I know what your talking about I bought the Scooby from a dealer wanting sales volume for targets
Using a car broker quote for leverage. I even took their zero percent 12 month 50/50 offer

However one of the best internet car brokers in the U.K. will always quote the lowest prices on a couple of particular brands by advising that if you wish to own the car from day one . you will sign up for the in-house finance to get a “ manufacturers contribution towards the price” .Then exercise your right to cancel the finance in month one .

I might go look at the new Forester , although it doesn’t appeal to me . The dealer normally has a nice evening reception with free sausage rolls !! 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

2016 Subaru Outback SE 2.0 diesel SE Premium Lineartronic Sold 2024 after 8 years and 80k miles . Best Car I ever owned !

2023 Toyota Hilux invincible X 2.8 Auto .

westville wrote:

- there is absolutely nothing wrong with my present car it does everything I ask of it and has been utterly reliable I am just BORED with it and want a change - but with some of the benefits of FL2 ownership

Sounds to me like you need to get into a D4...... I got back in one and I'm loving it .
Absolutely nothing against the FL2 btw, great motor.  FL2 now gone and have a couple of items left for sale:-

Brodit active iPhone holder + Brodit dash clip,
Bluetooth Music Streaming Module.

That’s a point

I loved all three of my FL2’s and have many happy memories. However, while the D4’s were so similar to the FL2, they were also so much nicer in virtually every way, with even more character and fun value than the FL2!!

Well worth a try

D3 was the best of the bunch.

I’ll never forget the first one I saw, a silver HSE, it looked like it should’ve been exploring the moon. I sill have the brochure that I spent hours drooling over before purchasing my one, a 1 1/2 year old bog standard 7 seater as that brought air suspension and TR if a mind correctly.

I’m hoping to get that feeling back with the new Defender 110. Don’t get me wrong I love the Velar, it makes an excellent all weather GT car but there’s just that something missing. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

Never owned, or even driven a D3, but I certainly prefer the way it looks (both inside and out).

Still very keen to see what the OP makes of the idea of a D4. If he’s bored with the FL2, but has liked it before that, the D4 represents exactly the same drug, but in a much, much, stronger dose!