But he did take the spare off the trunk lid  Regards

David

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Off roading video

 MY14 Kahn Converted Dynamic - Fuji White Ebony/Pimento Interior
MY15 Xenon Headlight Conversion

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All that effort to disguise what it is and then put Defender on the brake callipers 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

Hope that SWB is finished article... Be having one of them,  If it wasn't so bad it'd be funny.

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Freelander 2 HSE auto 2014 ( Florrie ) ..... Try again.
Freelander 2 GS 2012...... Gone.

The SWB/90 looks production ready to me.

It’s the one I’d have but in reality it’s just a bit too impractical for me. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

In today’s world you have to wonder about the wisdom of putting a £1000 worth of alloy wheel and tyre on the rear door . One set of Laser locking nut removers and an Aldi battery angle grinder if the owner has seen fit to weld as chain to the mounting plate .... Here speaks the prior owner of two stolen 90’s and few robbed bits

The big failing with the 90 size is the same as the Freelander 2 and the Disco sport , the load area is inadequate if you need to carry a few things that need covering up 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

2016 Subaru Outback SE 2.0 diesel SE Premium Lineartronic Sold 2024 after 8 years and 80k miles . Best Car I ever owned !

2023 Toyota Hilux invincible X 2.8 Auto .

Now we can see that they look like real Land Rovers, I wonder what really differentiates them from other modern LRs/RRs.

To my eye the LWB version looks similar to the RRS, and I would imagine the RRS would handle rock crawling in a similar fashion.

The Defenders shown seem to be quite sophisticated and complicated vehicles. I am confused what this 'new' Land Rover (Defender) family represents that is really different from its 'cousins'. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

That isn’t the LWBs body, that’s just a mule testing running gear.

LWB

 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

i thought the LWB in the video looked like a RRS shape with the rear lights etc.

TBH I think the new defender looks like a modified D4 however that's no bad thing really, it will still be very capable on/off road. It will just be massively overprice against the competition.

I wonder if they are going to do a stripped out version of the SWB and LWB so its more bare bones than luxury materials. In which case that might possibly have entry level prices to compare to the Japanese competition. (which will be much better specced)

I think that the "New" Defender market will want luxury over off road ability. When I had my last Defender a few years ago and was on the DEF2 forum there were loads of people on there who had bought new Defenders then spent more than the purchase price to add fancy leather seats ,power upgrades, big wheels , sound systems etc etc with at least one site sponsor customiser" who was on there having a waiting list for work running over a year!

I think the 'luxury' in the old Defenders TD5 & Puma was supplied in the XS version, with half leather heated seats etc etc.

I drove a fully loaded almost brand new Puma 90 XS which was a LR accessories demo vehicle and fitted with roof LED strip, front spots, winch, LR roof rack, alcantara roof lining and loads more. IIRC its was c50k.

but it still drove pretty much like the old black/green Wolf and non turbo Defenders I used to drive on a daily basis.... i.e. loud, rattly, and cramped

but at the other end you had the bare bones hardback truck versions for the farmers etc. so im pretty sure they can do the same for these new ones. But yes, your right, most of the sales will be to aspiring street drivers rather than farmers, explorers and off roaders.

BTW.... can they still be referred to as Chelsea tractors if they basically excluded from Chelsea due to ULEZ ?

We had the opportunity to buy one of the “landmark” run out models, went as far as a good test drive and dismissed it out of hand as every time I turned the wheel my elbow was obstructed by the door, bloody awful cramped position, how some burly (OK as fat as me ) soldier ever drove it and then fought a war is beyond me. Regards

David

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we were slimmer then

 Regards

David

Lovely i6 has now gone, but not me......

Please let me know if anything in my post offends you, as I may wish to offend you again......

Little bit of footage from my dashcam this lunchtime as I came off the M40 southbound towards Gaydon. First one I’ve seen on UK Plates and right hand drive, rather than Belgian and left-hand drive, however my main observation as we parted company at the junction was that the clamshell bonnet appeared to be a cardboard-type disguise, secured by metal pins. It was flapping about on the offside corner like mad.

Anyway, enjoy...sorry for the crap music, it’s what Radio 2 was playing at the time...