Yorky Bob wrote:

While you lot playing I did it for real.

What with a dodgy SA80 that constantly jammed due to crap construction!?? Or were you of the Bren gun era Yorky?

Ak47 now and then and not in uniform so do not be too cheeky  FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

Yorky Bob wrote:

Ak47 now and then and not in uniform so do not be too cheeky

TA/SWAT then?!?

(Only joking Yorky, keep your syrup on!)

Bob doing it for real while we were playing with those cap guns in the early to mid 60s , that would probably put him somewhere very sandy ..... and not Blackpool  2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

2016 Subaru Outback SE 2.0 diesel SE Premium Lineartronic Sold 2024 after 8 years and 80k miles . Best Car I ever owned !

2023 Toyota Hilux invincible X 2.8 Auto .

Yep, Aden was probably a risk worth taking back then.....as was Kuwait in the early 90's...so what? And I was having a laugh with a former (ex) jobber....don't be so serious FFS! What is it with some of you on here?

One must remember that what goes on line is not real conversation. Facial expression means so much more when attempting to take the . FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

I'll stick to my Spud-o-Matic in that case Yorky...Cheers 🍺

ps: you're still buying the beers!

Never been a BMW fan but my daughter has just bought a 18 plate X3 M sport 2l diesel and it is a cracker. Seating position didn't seem low, smooth through the gears, loads of room and more toys than you can shake a stick at. Only downside is the 5 year super tax on cars with an initial cost of £ 40k or more but I guess any new 4x4 LR is in that category too. All in all something to think about when the time comes.  MY 09 GS manual in Lago Grey, Wood Co arm rest and side bumper strips - now sold.

MY 15 SD4 SE Auto Orkney Grey with colour coded Bumper Door Mouldings

Quite a lot of LRs still under the £40k limit, some deliberately priced just below (eg DS Landmark). Burt something to watch if buying a well-specced model secondhand! Ex AA Series III LWB Safari - Gone
300TDi Disco (bought new - terrible car) sent back after 18 months
Freelander 1 Estate - leased, given back at end of lease
200TDi Disco (bought from a mate with 100,000 on the clock) - Gone
Disco 2 TD5 - sold and exported to France
FR2 TD4 GS - Gone
FR2 SD4 HSE - Now changed for a DS
New model ex-demo Evoque S 180 in white
Unable to order a new DS, so gave up. Now have a Volvo S90 Recharge.

Haven't looked at prices for some time - I seem to remember that the majority were over £40k whereas a lot, as you say, are under even when you spec metallic,spare wheel, auto and se tech . Have prices come down??

Also notice that LR has disappeared from the likes of drivethedeal and Broadspeed although Carwow still lists them. Hopefully the revamped model later this year will have cured some of the gremlins viz a viz oil dilution problems. MY 09 GS manual in Lago Grey, Wood Co arm rest and side bumper strips - now sold.

MY 15 SD4 SE Auto Orkney Grey with colour coded Bumper Door Mouldings

Don't hold your breath re oil dilution, but it does seem that they have improved the reliability of the latest models. The DS Landmark is basically a HSE less a few options, deliberately priced within the lower tax brand (just). No-one knows what the new model prices will be. At present LR aren't accepting orders for non-standard build models, apparently. They are trying to clear production before they start selling the new ones. There could be some bargains around soon.
I've heard they will start building in June and selling in August. Ex AA Series III LWB Safari - Gone
300TDi Disco (bought new - terrible car) sent back after 18 months
Freelander 1 Estate - leased, given back at end of lease
200TDi Disco (bought from a mate with 100,000 on the clock) - Gone
Disco 2 TD5 - sold and exported to France
FR2 TD4 GS - Gone
FR2 SD4 HSE - Now changed for a DS
New model ex-demo Evoque S 180 in white
Unable to order a new DS, so gave up. Now have a Volvo S90 Recharge.

tenet wrote:

Hopefully the revamped model later this year will have cured some of the gremlins viz a viz oil dilution problems.

Depends on whether the "facelifted" version is built on the same floorpan that is the root cause of the problem in terms of layout of the SCRF, or whether it migrates to the new PTA layout. I'd like to think that the facelift is more than cosmetic, but who knows?

Regarding building, they generally introduce these models after summer shutdown at Halewood, i.e. September, with a view to going on sale from mid-October. At least, if the FL2 13MY and Ewok mkII were anything to go by. When I was up there three weeks ago, they were at full-tilt and new Evoque's far outnumbered the DS driving off the final line.

I had a test drive in the new Honda CRV hybrid a day or two ago.

I must say I was impressed by the way they have managed to integrate the electric motor and 2.0l petrol engine without the use of a CVT gearbox (which in other cars tends to let revs flare and make an unpleasant noise). In fact in the Honda there is no gearbox at all …. Just a 1:1 direct connection between petrol engine and drive wheels at motorway speeds

At lower speeds the petrol engine only drives a generator which powers an 182BHP electric motor that can deliver full torque from the lowest speeds. See attached graphic.

It was very quiet and very comfortable with just as much space as a DS. Said to reliably deliver close to 45 to 50mpg too on regular unleaded, and that seems to be supported by a few road tests I’ve read.

Perhaps hybrids are the future?



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Isn't this how a diesel electric locomotive works? 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE