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jules



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I would tend to agree - but Im surprised disks are covered for wear. Jules

Post #364661 25th Jan 2019 10:50 pm
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Mowog



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Mine is October 14 registered
Bought it April 18, serviced by dealer before collection.
Then had its first mot one week later in April 18 by another Landrover dealer

Has approved used warranty and mot warranty
Second mot due in April 19, also service due.
The discs are good, so won't be this year.
I think you can only have one mot warranty claim throughout the duration of the approved used warranty.

( was from Northern Ireland that's why didn't have an mot when I bought it, mot done in England)

Post #364664 25th Jan 2019 11:20 pm
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Fnfwi2



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Just had brake service at main dealers. Surprised at difference between wear rates front and rear. Rear pads were down to 2mm (and were therefore changed) front were 6mm (and were left alone). Car has done 60,000 miles. Could the difference be down to the electronic parking brake?

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Yorky Bob



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Yes FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
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Post #366255 12th Feb 2019 1:17 pm
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Fnfwi2



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Odd, because I hardly ever use the parking brake, and never when the car's parked up. Maybe it's down to lack of use?

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Yorky Bob



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You asked if it was down to the electronic parking brake. Previous earlier versions of FL2 with a separate cable brake do not chew rear pads as quickly so it a loaded question is it not. Leaving it on or off is immaterial, the rear pads will wear just as rapidly, that is how the braking force is factory set up to the size of the calipers and factory standard pads used.

Are you from the old school that leaves a parking brake off to stop the cables stretching ? Or have you had bad experiences with frosts locking on the old style parking brakes due to water ingress ? This system should not suffer from either of those problems so not using it is rather perplexing too me. I do note you are in Scotland though Laughing FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

Post #366261 12th Feb 2019 2:05 pm
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Fnfwi2



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I know what you mean but this is an auto and the EPB would really only be used to hold the car on an incline in heavy traffic - and I hardly ever encounter that! In this part of the world I can drive up to 50 miles sometimes and not see another car - and probably use the brakes very little on the journey. I was just curious why the rear pads wear out so much faster than the fronts - maybe a caliper was seized.

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dunkley201



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For what it is worth, my MY10 HSE Auto also wears it’s rear pads quicker than fronts. Previously I fitted new disks and pads (all LR supplied). Have just changed the rear pads after 33,613 miles yet they still have better than 5mm left on them. Front pads look about half life left still. NB: This time I fitted Brembo pads (EuroCarParts had a deal - when do they not?) Let’s see if they chew up the discs!

Bob 10MY (Sept 09) TD4 HSE Auto in Stornoway Grey (Now Gone)

08 FL2 TD4 SE Manual in Rimini Red (Now Gone)

Post #366266 12th Feb 2019 3:16 pm
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IanMetro



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Danny wrote:
I know what you mean but this is an auto and the EPB would really only be used to hold the car on an incline in heavy traffic - and I hardly ever encounter that! In this part of the world I can drive up to 50 miles sometimes and not see another car - and probably use the brakes very little on the journey. I was just curious why the rear pads wear out so much faster than the fronts - maybe a caliper was seized.


I have had shorter life on rear pads compared with front, although it was my front discs which needed changing later with pads.
(On my previous XS FL2)

The FL2 is the first car that this has happened, and I put it down to the ride and handling systems (Dynamic Stability Control, Roll Stability Control, Etc) applying the individual rear brakes to counter/correct my driving. I do tend to avoid using brakes if possible and slow naturally for corners. (which I don't always judge right) FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

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Steve D



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jules wrote:
I would tend to agree - but Im surprised disks are covered for wear.


I don’t think anything is covered for wear under warranty (unless there’s a fault causing the excessive wear - sticking calliper for example wearing the pads out). Discs are covered for excessive run out. Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
Evoque SD4 Dynamic Lux Auto
Present: Audi A3 S Line.

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rsash



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The rear brakes wear quickly because the pads are tiny for the weight of the car.
The EPB is a separate braking system internal to the disc and only operates when you ask it to or when the engine is switched off, it doesn't affect disc pad wear.
I would have thought 17-20K life for rear pads is about average.

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jules



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I think you are incorrect. The older cable hand brake uses a separate brake but the EPB uses the same pads via an electric motor working on the same brake caliper and pads.

http://kpsautomotiveparts.co.uk/trw-electric-parking-brake-epb/


 Jules

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Steve D



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But they only come on when the vehicle is stationary so no real wear takes place. How could it? I don’t think I’ve manually operated the epb on our Evoque more than half a dozen times in the three and a bit years of ownership. It comes on when I switch off and realeases when I put it in gear. Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
Evoque SD4 Dynamic Lux Auto
Present: Audi A3 S Line.

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jules



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Steve: Are you sure? The FL manual says that automatic application of the EPB only occurs in cars with manual gearboxes. With automatic gearboxes the EPB has to be applied manually, otherwise it remains off when you switch the engine off. Are you not just leaving the autobox locked up in Park ? Maybe the Evoque is different to the FL2 but I doubt it.

This is a problem for a variety of automatic cars with EPBs as the EPB are rarely used and so tend to seize up. Jules

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Fnfwi2



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FL2 auto, engine running, foot on foot brake, apply EPB - you can feel the pedal sink as EPB (and light on dash) comes on. Foot on foot brake and switch off, this doesn't happen so EPB doesn't automatically come on when switching off.

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