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jim4244



Member Since: 19 May 2012
Location: Bedfordshire
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England 2011 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Auto Bali Blue
Thinking of returning

Hi all

I normally lurk over on the RRS forum, but joined this forum years ago as Mrs Jim used to own a 2011 XS SD4.

Presently I drive a 2017 L494, but due to worrying issues such as breaking crankshafts, oil dilution, government hatred of big diesel engines and just reliability issues, couple with me working overseas for 6 months every year I am really justifying buying another “Big” Range Rover.

We ran our Freelander for 3 years and it never missed a beat. We did a Land Rover experience day in one (Luton Hoo) and we were really impressed when it managed a rock climb that had defeated the Defender in front of us.

So I am now thinking of replacing my Sport with a Freelander, as there will be less depreciation, it will be easier to work on, it will be cheaper to insure and I won’t have to worry as much about where I park it.

I just wondered what folk here think is the best year model from 2011? I believe that it was discontinued in 2014? What year was the front end facelifted with the DRL’s?

Thanks

Jim Gone - MY11, TD4 XS, Bali Blue

Post #364172 20th Jan 2019 10:02 am
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jim4244



Member Since: 19 May 2012
Location: Bedfordshire
Posts: 66

England 2011 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Auto Bali Blue

Ahhh.... My old signature came up!

I could have sworn that it was a SD4 that we had......🤔

Jim Gone - MY11, TD4 XS, Bali Blue

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jim4244



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England 2011 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Auto Bali Blue

Can anyone please remind me of the difference between the TD4 and SD4?

Jim Gone - MY11, TD4 XS, Bali Blue

Post #364175 20th Jan 2019 10:05 am
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axle



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jules



Member Since: 13 Dec 2007
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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 SE Auto Firenze Red

jim4244 wrote:
Can anyone please remind me of the difference between the TD4 and SD4?

Jim


SD4 : More BHP (190) , similar torque (420Nm). Only comes with 6 speed torque converter automatic gearbox, and has no Stop/Start technology. Probably the best Freelander ever made. Jules

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Paul4751



Member Since: 02 Mar 2018
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United Kingdom 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Alaska White

jim4244 wrote:
Can anyone please remind me of the difference between the TD4 and SD4?

Jim


The technical differences can be obtained in a specification search. However there are pros & cons in the driving experience. The Sd4 is a fantastic long distance cruiser and great for towing, with lively powerful performance, and excellent fuel economy. I also like goodies like memory seats. But there is a downside driving around town and in heavy traffic; the accelerator and low gears are too responsive and it's difficult to drive smoothly at low speeds unless using the lightest of foot pressure. For this reason I have to select manual; such that the gears never drop into first and so all town driving starts in 2nd, this makes for a more relaxed drive in slow moving traffic. Once on the open road, I change back to auto.
Also written about many times on this site is a turbo lag; usually pulling out into traffic or other awkward times; there's a 2 second lag of NO power. It's unpredictable and infrequent and can't be allowed for and scary. The natural reaction is to accelerate harder and then when it does kick in, you lurch forward like a kangaroo! This my fourth FL and 7th LR and definitely the quirkiest.

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jim4244



Member Since: 19 May 2012
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England 2011 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Auto Bali Blue

Ahhh yes. Was the TD4 150bhp and the SD4 190bhp?

Guys what year was keyless start introduced? Was keyless entry ever an option?

Jim Gone - MY11, TD4 XS, Bali Blue

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jules



Member Since: 13 Dec 2007
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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 SE Auto Firenze Red

yes 150 vs 190

I dont think keyless was ever an option for FL2.
Who'd want it anyway unless you want your car even easier to steal.
I've got keyless on our Fiesta and personally its not worth the extra things you have to do to overcome the security risk. You still have to press a button to lock the car - its just on the door handle rather than on the fob. Jules

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Yorky Bob



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MY13 onwards to get the changes applied on the production line when the Ewok came down it as well. FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

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jim4244



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England 2011 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Auto Bali Blue

Hi Paul

Turbo lag sadly appears to be a feature of all Land Rover vehicles.

Has anyone on the forum had their engine remapped to solve the problem?

Jim Gone - MY11, TD4 XS, Bali Blue

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jim4244



Member Since: 19 May 2012
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England 2011 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Auto Bali Blue

Yorky so I’m really looking at a 62 plate or newer?

Jim Gone - MY11, TD4 XS, Bali Blue

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Stuartc



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The “turbo lag” that some people complain about is not turbo lag but the “neutral functioning” function of the gearbox. This is activated below about 35kph so if you coast into a roundabout and decide to zip into a hole then there is a momentary lapse as the gearbox selects drive. If you want to control this then you simply select “sport” mode which cancels the neutral functioning feature. Same applies at standstill you can either apply EHB or select sport, both neutralise this feature. MY15
Tyre Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)
Surround Camera System
InControl Apps soon to be replaced with CarPlay (WIP)
Meridian Premium Surround Sound
Digital Audio Broadcast
Timed Climate
Cruise ECO Data
Follow Me Home Reverse
Extra Features Menu
Picture In Motion
4x4i screen (WIP)
Digital Broadcast TV
Meridian Rear Media with WIFI
Factory Powered Tailgate
Blind Spot Monitoring (BSM)
Reverse Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA)
Electrochromatic Wing Mirrors (WIP)

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dorsetfreelander



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Loire Blue

My 14 reg SD4 auto XS is by far the best out of the five FL2s we have had in the family. Can't really fault it and I have never experienced any turbo lag. Ran up to Heathrow this week (120 miles each way up the M3) and got just over 40mpg on the screen. It seems to have a slightly different ride to our earlier models as if there are some suspension changes in the last year of production and I wonder how much of it is identical to an early Evoque ? 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

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Yorky Bob



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United Kingdom 2013 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Firenze Red

jim4244 wrote:
Yorky so I’m really looking at a 62 plate or newer?

Jim


The one where no key is inserted to start and release the steering lock is the one you want. Even the lowly GS has nice full leather. FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

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j77



Member Since: 26 Nov 2008
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Scotland 

I’d go for a Metropolis, everything you need and more on it. A mini Range Rover. I’ve had the TD4 160, 150 and SD4, the latter would be my pick.

I’ve toyed with the idea of a Fl2 to sit alongside the Velar, for use on dog carrying duties. Or for when the Velar is in at the dealers Rolling Eyes

The D240 in my Velar has the hesitation by the bucket load, the worst out of all the autos I’ve had.

Mauritius Blue, the best colour they done. This was my last 13MY Fl2 XS TD4 manual, chopped my Evoque in for it.

 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

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