for those that may be interested (not CG obviously )

not a single LR/RR product in sight, where they once scored well.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/art...-2019.html

They didn't win any of the categories but they certainly featured in the reviews and had plenty of praise.

Landrover no longer sponcor it but Volvo do now . Suprise suprise Volvo win tow car of the year .. the whole is  Do it now ! Your a long time dead !!

are you suggesting some form of bias there ?

I do like the look of the XC60 though, but it would have to be the D5 or T5 R Dynamic to try and shed the old mans car image

A number of years ago I had a day out at Millbrook as a prize from Volvo, we drove or were driven on all the different tracks , a good day out if you ever get the chance.

In Australia we are using dualcabs mostly these days because caravans are made for offroad or at least semi offroad. The endless corrugated dirt roads will destroy your standard caravan in minutes!

Then a lot of grey nomads & families have a tinnie (aluminium boat) on the car roof or a couple of kayaks, 9.9 hp outboard motor, two 9 kg gas, 100 litres absolute minimum of water, 40 - 100 litres of fuel, 300+ watts solar panels, 200 to 300 AH batteries, 65 litre compressor esky as well as fridge, fishing gear & another esky for the fish, BBQ, large awnings, bikes, 2 spare wheels for the caravan, 2 spare wheels for the car, recovery gear. Not to forget air conditioning & generator.

The only area we save weight is we don't use the remote control caravan manoeuvring as there is plenty of space!

Beer is bought in cartons of 36 so the weight adds up very quickly when you are remote for long periods.

Even 3.5 tonne towing capacity is really not enough.

http://www.withoutahitch.com.au/travel/caravanning-tanami-track/

http://www.withoutahitch.com.au/caravan/to...s-of-2016/ two LR products on this page, but it is not what you see travelling. In 3 months around Australia I saw about 10 LR products.

Back to the car, a lot of people upgrade the standard fuel tank to larger 180 litres capacity. The keen ones will install 280 litres which is about the maximum one can fit. Plus a few Jerry cars. One person I chatted with could carry 475 litres of fuel!

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RogB wrote:

are you suggesting some form of bias there ?

I do like the look of the XC60 though, but it would have to be the D5 or T5 R Dynamic to try and shed the old mans car image

Strangely VAG cars did well for many years with no spare and a 60 Kg noseweight, can't remember the sponsor  my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
2012 HSE SD4 In Orkney Grey now gone, best car ever.

without pointing any fingers or casting aspertions I can see a pattern developing in the decision making process

RogB wrote:

are you suggesting some form of bias there ?
YES

I do like the look of the XC60 though, but it would have to be the D5 or T5 R Dynamic to try and shed the old mans car image

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winner by default of the tractor vs caravan race

it definitely looks like the beginning of the end for Landrover if they can't compete in best Towcar of the year awards.

is that not what they are supposed to be good at

Iain

As private Frazer in dads army used to say
"we're Doomed I tell ye,DOOMED"  gone
P38 v8 auto no problems,great howle from exhausts when giving it welly
Td5 auto head gasket,no5 pot not uncommon but good car.
1st Tdv6s manual epb problem fixed under warranty(stealer said"never heard of this before,i suggested he looked at d3 forum.
2nd Tdv6 se auto epb
3rd Tdv6 xs auto 2008,swmbo,s favourite.

iain cooper wrote:

it definitely looks like the beginning of the end for Landrover if they can't compete in best Towcar of the year awards.

is that not what they are supposed to be good at

Iain

One really shouldn't take the Caravan & Motorhome Club tow car awards seriously.