When oil is split to make petrol diesel is also produced along with other agents. So as long as petrol exists they (oil companies) need to sell the diesel bye product so its going to be around for a long time to come but at what price is the question. FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
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blueboy wrote:

I know this thread is 3 years old but it was an interesting read. I am wondering if there has been any real improvements to diesel cars & if the future is still uncertain for them.

My mate is currently looking at getting another car & he says its not going to be diesel because they are going to be seriously hit in the budget this year.

In my limited capacity of anything to do with cars diesel or petrol would it not be possible to modify the fuel in some way, I guess the nox is a bi product of burning diesel fuel a bit like smoke when you burn coal. You can buy smokeless coal which goes some way to reducing the smoke so something got altered in the coal I guess.

There is still nothing that will really match the mpg of a diesel over long distances. It will be around for a while, and the government hopes so to 💷💷💷💷💷 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

blueboy wrote:

I was reading earlier about councils charging to take a diesel into town & charging more for parking etc so it does seem the writings on the wall for diesels.

Who wants to go into a dirty, over-crowded town if they can help it ?
Just do you shopping on-line , sit back and let them bring it to you - in a diesel van of course  Jules

Past master wrote:

blueboy wrote:

I guess the nox is a bi product of burning diesel fuel a bit like smoke when you burn coal. You can buy smokeless coal which goes some way to reducing the smoke so something got altered in the coal I guess.

There may be hope: https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/103...-emissions

All very interesting reading guys, hopefully will still be able to drive my 2007 Freelander in immaculate condition for a few years yet. I have only covered 4000 miles this year & thats mostly going to the country to pursue my metal detecting hobby & taking my old aunt to the seaside for the odd day out. The car has only done 42000 miles so a lot of life left in it yet unless it gets scrapped because of its age.

Because of my age now I can use the bus for free to go into town, its just a 10 minute ride & I dont have to worry about parking tickets or finding the car damaged etc on my return after shopping.

I am retiring in October after 50 years of working & my VW Transporter that I have owned from 2 years old is retiring with me in the form of making it into a camper van for some days & nights out with the Mrs. Hopefully both vehicles will be able to stay on the road for the foreseeable future.

jules wrote:

blueboy wrote:

I was reading earlier about councils charging to take a diesel into town & charging more for parking etc so it does seem the writings on the wall for diesels.

Who wants to go into a dirty, over-crowded town if they can help it ?
Just do you shopping on-line , sit back and let them bring it to you - in a diesel van of course

I am gradually making more use of my bus pass, its not a bad run into Bristol, and the Park and Ride is also good. I have a slight problem, in that on my return journey, I have been known to get on the wrong bus in the stampede on some city bus stops. At these times the bus staff have proved very kind to an elderly couple.

On a more serious note, I can't see public transport ever taking me across country, or affordable long range electric vehicles being around in the next few years.

Once the tax / business incentives die away, as the Treasury moves to find its lost revenues, petrol and diesel will seem a good and efficient idea. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
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(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

dorsetfreelander wrote:

The problem with Nitrogen Oxides (there are several of them) .