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Blackbird14



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Fitting larger front brakes

Hi,

I have a 2013 TD4 XS with 17 inch wheels. I need to fit new brake pads and disks and as I tow a caravan wondered about fitting the petrol version disk brakes. I have read the other posts on this issue but cannot find any reference as to what is the minimum size wheel that can be used for this upgrade. Will the V6 petrol engine brakes fit inside a 17 inch wheel? I think they should as I believe that some of the petrol versions had 17 inch wheels but would like confirmation before purchasing all the parts.

Thanks for any information
Dave

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Steve D



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Aren’t the spare steel wheels 17”? If so, they should fit. Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
Evoque SD4 Dynamic Lux Auto
Present: Audi A3 S Line.

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CJOver



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There have been a couple of threads where forum users have described how they have made this upgrade - you should be able to find these using the search function.

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Blackbird14



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Thanks for the replies especially about the steel spare.

Dave

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Yorky Bob



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Chat to your insurance company as it would be a mod and they may sting you for it. The brakes as standard will not let you down unlike the headlights. FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

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One of the posts is here
http://www.freel2.com/forum/topic25773.htm...ger+brakes 2007 TD4 XS Manual in Sumatra Black

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Re: Fitting larger front brakes

Blackbird14 wrote:
Hi,

I have a 2013 TD4 XS with 17 inch wheels. I need to fit new brake pads and disks and as I tow a caravan wondered about fitting the petrol version disk brakes. I have read the other posts on this issue but cannot find any reference as to what is the minimum size wheel that can be used for this upgrade. Will the V6 petrol engine brakes fit inside a 17 inch wheel? I think they should as I believe that some of the petrol versions had 17 inch wheels but would like confirmation before purchasing all the parts.

Thanks for any information
Dave


Did you ever go ahead with this?

I am wanting to upgrade too and can't find a definitive answer if the re-positioned caliper for the 316mm disc fits inside 17" rims?

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jules



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wrobz

Maybe you could measure the smallest gap between the caliper and the wheel inside surface and then subtract the additional radius of the larger disk and see if the result will give you enough clearance. Jules

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Yorky Bob



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This link suggests an I6 can use 16" wheels to 19" wheels.

https://www.wheel-size.com/size/land-rover/freelander-2/2010/


Land Rover Freelander 2 2010 3.2i
– Generation: II [2006 .. 2010] [EUDM]
– Power: 229 hp | 171 kW | 232 PS
– Engine: I6, Petrol
– Center Bore: 63.4 mm
– Wheel Fasteners: Lug nuts
– Thread Size: M14 x 1.5
– Trim Production: [2006 .. 2010]

215/75 R16 103H 6.5Jx16 ET50 ET 35-55 5x108

235/65 R17 104V 7.5Jx17 ET55 5x108

235/65 R17 104V 8Jx17 ET55 5x108

235/60 R18 107V 8Jx18 ET55 5x108

235/55 R19 105V 8Jx19 ET55 5x108

You will need to declare this conversion to your insurance company. At the end of the day the brakes are good on these vehicles and if yours are not you need to some work on them. FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

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Blackbird14



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Re: Fitting larger front brakes

wrobz wrote:
Blackbird14 wrote:
Hi,

I have a 2013 TD4 XS with 17 inch wheels. I need to fit new brake pads and disks and as I tow a caravan wondered about fitting the petrol version disk brakes. I have read the other posts on this issue but cannot find any reference as to what is the minimum size wheel that can be used for this upgrade. Will the V6 petrol engine brakes fit inside a 17 inch wheel? I think they should as I believe that some of the petrol versions had 17 inch wheels but would like confirmation before purchasing all the parts.

Thanks for any information
Dave


Did you ever go ahead with this?

I am wanting to upgrade too and can't find a definitive answer if the re-positioned caliper for the 316mm disc fits inside 17" rims?


Hi,

I did not carry out this conversion as I was uncertain as to the problems.

Dave

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wrobz



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jules wrote:
wrobz

Maybe you could measure the smallest gap between the caliper and the wheel inside surface and then subtract the additional radius of the larger disk and see if the result will give you enough clearance.


There is c.19 to 20mm gap clear of any balancing weights and c.15mm where the weights are.

With the radius of the 316mm dics only being 8mm bigger I am going to take the plunge and give them a try with 17" alloys.

Will report back when done with some photos.

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You can remove the weights if you have to and have them rebalanced using just clip-on weights on the inner wheel rim flange only. Any tyre shop will be able to do that for you. Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
Evoque SD4 Dynamic Lux Auto
Present: Audi A3 S Line.

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jules



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wrobz

Ive got all the parts for this conversion waiting to go on.
Id be interested to know if you detect an improvement in braking.

I did a similar conversion to our Fabia VRS several years ago and it made a huge difference - same pads and calipers just a bit further from the centre. Jules

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I’ve ordered some Brembo 316mm discs, OEM pads and front Caliper carriers. At the same time I picked up some new 3.2 Petrol rear vented discs and larger Piston calipers.

Will be getting my local mechanic to fit in the next week or so and will report back on the results. Hopefully should be a harmonious match for the added grunt after the Bluefin remap.

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Has anybody investigated what effect these changes have to the settings of the various anti-lock and stability systems of the FL2?
or are you just hoping the dynamic nature of these systems will correct any strange behaviour? FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

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