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dunkley201



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

Thank you Jules. Note that at no point do I refer to it as an "oil". Always a "fluid". In this case an Auto Transmission Fluid or ATF. The name oil concentrates on the lubrication properties which is in this case a misnomer. A fluid can have many properties. Wink

Bob 10MY (Sept 09) TD4 HSE Auto in Stornoway Grey (Now Gone)

08 FL2 TD4 SE Manual in Rimini Red (Now Gone)

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Flyfisher



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Auto Sumatra Black

Thank you for the “how to”. I changed out 4 ltr of fluid today and will do the same again next week.

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adywicaksono



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2008 LR2 i6 HSE Auto Alaska White

p_gill wrote:
An alternative way to flush the ATF fluid

1. Disconnect the hose shown by the red arrow (one Torx bolt)

2. attach an extension to the hose that will feed the fluid into a bucket (a tight fitting hose or a hose clamp will be needed)

3. turn on the engine for about 10 to 15 seconds (when it starts pumping air you need to stop the engine immediatly)

4. measure how much fluid you removed and add back the same amount

5. repeat steps 1 to 4 until you are satisfied that you flushed enough (for me I did three flushes of about 3.5 quarts)









Here is a diagram from Volvo for the drain plug in case you need a new drain bolt etc.





Volvo part numbers

17 Plug automatic transmission 30713219

18 O-ring automatic transmission 1233068

19 Gasket automatic transmission 30713220

16 Level indicating pipe automatic transmission 30713218




Good Luck

Paul


DId you do this method Paul? Looks interesting, how many litre out for 15seconds?

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p_gill



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United States 2008 Freelander 2 i6 SE Auto Tambora Flame

Adywicasono,

I did do my most recent flush as described.

When you start the engine the fluid comes out very fast in about 10 or 15 seconds three liters will have been pumped out.

Then the pump will start pumping air and fluid and if you are not careful the hose will start making a mess.

Its difficult to do it without help. (I did it by myself)

If you have someone to turn off the engine then its very easy, just hold the hose down in the bucket and tell your friend to turn off the engine when the bubbles start.


One caution there are two hoses and they look identical if you remove the wrong hose then the fluid won't come out of the hose it will come out of the transmission where the hose was removed from. To mitigate this turn the engine on very briefly and confirm that the fluid is coming out of the hose and not the port in the transmission that you removed the hose from.

If you get it wrong it will be very obvious and it will make a big mess.

Happy Motoring

Paul


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adywicaksono



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2008 LR2 i6 HSE Auto Alaska White

I have seen this with LR3

https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic55010.html

Seems the similar way for LR2

I did on my LR3 before, will try on my wife LR2

Thanks

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p_gill



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United States 2008 Freelander 2 i6 SE Auto Tambora Flame

Thanks for sharing the link.

Its nice to see someone make their own tools.


For your wife's car:

One thing to keep in mind is the T55 Torx for filling the transmission is very tight.

To get access to it I removed my airfilter box and I was careful not to drop the fill plug into the engine bay.

Take a look at the first picture on this thread (Page 1, first picture) and you will see the T55

Reinstalling it is difficult as well, it is challenging to align the plug and to get it to catch the thread.



If you are going to make your own tool like the link you shared then you can fill by removing the other end of the return line (at the heat exchanger, blue box in the picture) and forcing the fluid back into the transmission.


The only reason that I did it the way that I did is because it is easier to remove the connection at the transmission.

Good Luck

Paul

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Todologo



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The direction of the fluid is not correct according to manual, the first time I did it I dirty the garage Censored , the radiator outlet is for the lower intake.




I did it like this: FL2 07
hot engine, drain liquid approximately 3 liters, fill with Mobil atf 3309, 3 liters
disconnect lower pipe from the cooler, use a clear pipe and a container for dirty liquid, start the engine, move the lever for all positions 2 seconds, when container has 3 liters or bubbles,(15 seconds approximately) stop the engine. Fill again with 3 liters and repeat the operation.
check level at 60 Cº
I used 12 liters








Here the color of the changes
the number 5 is liquid without use


Click image to enlarge


a greeting

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p_gill



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United States 2008 Freelander 2 i6 SE Auto Tambora Flame

Todologo,

I added a warning to my post above.

Unfortunately I didn't take a picture of which hose I removed.

Thanks for sharing your experience.


For anyone that is thinking about using this method only start the engine briefly to minimize the mess.

Happy Motoring

Paul

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Badger51



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OK, going to do the dump & fill method as I'm not too sure about using Pauls flush method. My question is, how long do I wait between dumps & fills. I have 12 litres available, so do I do it once, drive it a few miles, do it again etc etc, or should I wait a day or two in between?

Cheers,

Nick (Now Sold). 2008 Freelander 2 (Nazca Sand) SE TD4 Auto. Statutory write off & on WOVR for hail damage but still road legal.
171037Km as of 09/05/22
Superchips Bluefin Flash
Nanocom Evo II (also sold)


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alex_pescaru



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I, for one, make a dump and fill (3 liters) at each service (about 10,000 km).
You will see that after 4-5 services aprox. (50,000 km) the oil that exits from the box has just a slight change in color being almost as new.
This way will be much easy on the autobox and give it chance to adapt more easily to the new "oil mix" and you don't need to drop the adaptions.

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Badger51



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Thanks alex, I think that's a good idea of yours, wish I'd been doing it since I got mine!

Nick (Now Sold). 2008 Freelander 2 (Nazca Sand) SE TD4 Auto. Statutory write off & on WOVR for hail damage but still road legal.
171037Km as of 09/05/22
Superchips Bluefin Flash
Nanocom Evo II (also sold)

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alex_pescaru



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I am doing it since the car had 70,000 kms, not from new.

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p_gill



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United States 2008 Freelander 2 i6 SE Auto Tambora Flame

Nick,

The first time that I changed my fluid I did the 3.2 quart removal and replace.

There is nothing wrong with doing it this way.

As always Alex’s approach is very reasonable and well considered.


The one advantage of the approach that I took is that you get more new fluid in the transmission faster

As for the time required for the new fluid to mix with the old it should only take a few minutes.

The transmission is pumping a lot of fluid.

Good luck with whatever you decide

Thanks

Paul

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Badger51



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Thanks Paul,

As you say it gets pumped around pretty quick, so I think I will probably do several, one after the other, until I am reasonably happy with the colour.

Cheers,

Nick (Now Sold). 2008 Freelander 2 (Nazca Sand) SE TD4 Auto. Statutory write off & on WOVR for hail damage but still road legal.
171037Km as of 09/05/22
Superchips Bluefin Flash
Nanocom Evo II (also sold)

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Badger51



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So did 3 x dump & fills today, took it for a short drive & then adjusted fluid level, removed 350mm @60c.

The first dump fluid was darkish brown but had no burnt smell. I think the changes might be slightly smoother but it was not bad before either!

Nick (Now Sold). 2008 Freelander 2 (Nazca Sand) SE TD4 Auto. Statutory write off & on WOVR for hail damage but still road legal.
171037Km as of 09/05/22
Superchips Bluefin Flash
Nanocom Evo II (also sold)

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