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markconnor33



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Wiring for towbar

Just wondering if any of you have wired single electrics for a towbar, either using Landrover plug in lead, or traditional N type bypass relays.

Any of you able to confirm which wires I need to hook up to, and where they are located.

As Landrover kit just plugs in, I assume the connections are all brought to the plug (LHS of boot?).
Anybody know which colour wires are which?

Also, is it possible to use the dashboard "tell tale", rather than an annoying beeping sounder in the boot?

Mark

PS Just why do landrover charge £180 for plug in wiring!!! Freelander 2
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Post #3070 14th May 2007 5:38 pm
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avtur



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Re: Wiring for towbar

markconnor33 wrote:
Just wondering if any of you have wired single electrics for a towbar, either using Landrover plug in lead, or traditional N type bypass relays.

Any of you able to confirm which wires I need to hook up to, and where they are located.

As Landrover kit just plugs in, I assume the connections are all brought to the plug (LHS of boot?).
Anybody know which colour wires are which?

Also, is it possible to use the dashboard "tell tale", rather than an annoying beeping sounder in the boot?

Mark

PS Just why do landrover charge £180 for plug in wiring!!!


To answer your last question first .... because there are people like me (who you may consider to be stupid) who are willling to pay it ... because the trauma of electrical problems (and a pi55ing match with the dealer) is something I just don't have time for! (actually I problably didn't pay quite that much because I got the whole lot fitted for £420)

Anyway for various reasons I took my car to my friendly towbar specialist after the dealer had fitted the towbar, he reckoned there are two plugs into the car harness. One is easily found behind the lower trim panel on the LHS of the boot, but he seemed to think there was a second one behind the main plastic side panel, he didn't take that panel off but he was certain he could feel it. He was also certain that people in the aftersales market were developing a low cost plug-ins so the information is out there with the specialists. He also reckoned that it looked very similar to the fitment in the latest Ford Galaxy, which would make sense given the ownership of LR these days. The phrase 'canbus' kept cropping up in relation to the wiring standard, I don't know if that means anything to you ...

Post #3074 14th May 2007 8:23 pm
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Tim in Scotland



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I've just googled CANbus.................................... and don't understand any of what I read but here you go, here's a link to a description of what one of them is!
http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_Connector_CAN.html
There are some VERY techy and large words in that description that I haven't ever seen before, JARGON Warning!

Sounds like a sort of electrical LAN to me! How can carbon have a footprint, it has no feet?
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Post #3077 14th May 2007 8:55 pm
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markconnor33



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LAN it is then, all makes sense to me.

I have to say that I am still not convinced that this is the way LR have gone on the FL2, although you may be right, and that would explain the excessive price LR charge for such a basic function.

Anybody got a picture of the adapter lead? The pictures I have seem didn't seem to have any electronic gismo's on them.

Won't change my decision to wire my own, but would still like to know how it should all fit together.

Thanks guys


Mark Freelander 2
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Post #3078 14th May 2007 9:18 pm
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markconnor33



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Got all the gear now.

Witter detachable towbar from Towequipe (£190), Single electrics kit inc Smart bypass relay(£35).

Had a look at supplied instructions and looks straightforward to fit, with no cuts to trim, and being detachable, shouldn't interfere with reversing beepers.

Hopefully should have fitted before end of weekend, ready for first tow next week.

Cheers
Mark Freelander 2
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Post #3136 17th May 2007 9:00 pm
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jon



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Wiring for towbar

When I got my car I had the towbar fitted pre-delivery. When I hitched up to my van a few weeks later nothing worked. A quick whip round to the garage was necessary as the on board computer had to be programmed to know that the trailer wiring was present. All worked fine after that.

Not sure if relevant to DIY fitting but might be useful to know. Jonathan

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markconnor33



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Crikeyyy Shocked

£500 ish to a Landrover stealer, and your car/trailer doesn't work afterwards - classic Sad


Makes me extra glad I fitted my own.

Mark Freelander 2
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Post #3333 23rd May 2007 5:42 pm
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NightFox



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Did yours work then Mark, or is it necessary to have a LR dealer "activate" it?

Post #3334 23rd May 2007 6:32 pm
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markconnor33



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Works great, but I didn't use LR wiring kit (too much of a rip off!), so nothing to activate.

Wired simple single electrics, with Smart 7 way bypass relay.

All as per my other post, which tells you all how to do it.

Cheers
Mark Freelander 2
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Detachable Witter Towbar

Post #3342 23rd May 2007 9:17 pm
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Paul



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For the first time of my life, I didn't fit the towbar myself. Exactly: because of the electronics.
So I went to a towbar fitter who is specialised in electronics and who even produces an universal module himself that normally seems to work trouble free. What happened next, I don't know (I've heard different stories) but the fact is that suddenly the word FAILURE appeared on the display. ABS and DHC didn't work anylonger and there was no choise but putting my car on a trailer and bringing it to the Land Rover dealer.
They noticed a serious software problem, had to wait 2 days to get the right software and also had to replace an electronic module which is mount on the rear differential.
Eventually, the towbar fitter didn't want to take the risk to do the electrics without the genuine cable as he was aware that any future problems with the electronics would automatically be attributed to the non standard wiring. Fortunately, all repairing costs - and even the genuine wiring - are paid by the towbar fitter (or his assurance).

After a couple of sleepless nights, I have a better towbar than the LR one now and the genuine wiring all at a very reasonable price Mr. Green

When I asked the towbar fitter what solution he would suggest to the next Freelander 2 driver, his answer was clear: "definitely the original wiring".

Post #4496 11th Jul 2007 12:25 pm
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markconnor33



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Sound advice for those who can afford it.

No problems with my DIY fit to date though, and not expecting any.

Mark Freelander 2
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Detachable Witter Towbar

Post #4499 11th Jul 2007 4:38 pm
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Paul



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good job markconnor ! Thumbs Up


(but after my experiences of last week, I wouldn't take any risk)

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