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pab

Member Since: 28 Aug 2012
Location: Now in Mid-Wales
Posts: 2007

2009 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Lago Grey

Yep, whoever designed that (the D5) really is in the wrong job!

For me the D5 is a car of two halves - I like most of what I can't see (the underlying architecture) and hate almost everything I can see (its looks, gadgets, gimmickry and bling, lack of practicality, etc)! And as usual UK buyers are being short-changed - in other markets one can buy a competitively-priced 5-seater with coil springs (less to go wrong!), which would be an attractive option for many, I'm sure.

As for the X3, not my cup of tea, but if it suits you that's all that matters.

29th Mar 2017 8:06 am

j77

Member Since: 26 Nov 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 2909

Not to stray to far off topic but my spec, the SE, has just the right amount of kit, it doesn't have all this daft electric folding rear seat malarkey and doesn't have Incontrol Pro which seems to a constant source of problems in every JLR vehicle that has it and no gesture tailgate which is temperamental, to put it politely.

Anyway back on topic, those that have one swear by the X3, well built reliable car. Though that light interior would bring out my OCD, it drove me mad on my DS. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

29th Mar 2017 9:57 am

RogB

Member Since: 16 Dec 2014
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 3880

2013 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Lux Auto Santorini Black

pab wrote:
Yep, whoever designed that (the D5) really is in the wrong job!

For me the D5 is a car of two halves - I like most of what I can't see (the underlying architecture) and hate almost everything I can see (its looks, gadgets, gimmickry and bling, lack of practicality, etc)! And as usual UK buyers are being short-changed - in other markets one can buy a competitively-priced 5-seater with coil springs (less to go wrong!), which would be an attractive option for many, I'm sure.

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I was in the dealers yesterday looking over a new (to me) Freelander to replace my broken Evoque. The salesman was very pleasant, very helpful, and very ignorant of my needs as a customer.
Looked at 2 cars, a 2014 GS and a 2013 HSE but all he could point out was the leather seats, boot space, BT connectivity etc. When I started asking about Xenon or Halogen, or is the LED signatures were fitted,or what the capablilities were of this or that function... he was clueless.

Just goes to show how little car makers/designers/dealers care about a cars capabities and how much they care about aesthetics and gimmicky features that the general public know nothing about but want to show off to their neighbours. How many modern LR buyers know about approach/departure angles, ramp break over, or that the washer nozzles on FL2 show the inside track of the front wheels so you can guide yourself over obstacles.....

29th Mar 2017 10:32 am

MartynB

Member Since: 08 Aug 2011
Location: Currently Rootless !
Posts: 1779

2009 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Auto Zermatt Silver

I was in Stonelake, the independent specialist in Copley near Halifax yesterday ( not to be confused with Rybrook Copley Landrover the official dealer next door ) .
I noticed that they had a decent selection of Freelander 2, on display, and a few more due in soon. They are nice people to deal with and the brothers who run it know their LR products inside out. Their set up is immaculate ( you could be forgiven for thinking you had walked into a main dealer reception) and the customer service is excellent. 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

2016 Subaru Outback SE 2.0 diesel SE Premium Lineartronic Sold 2024 after 8 years and 80k miles . Best Car I ever owned !

2023 Toyota Hilux invincible X 2.8 Auto .

29th Mar 2017 8:20 pm

chicken george

Member Since: 05 Dec 2007
Location: N. Yorks
Posts: 13289

2008 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Santorini Black

http://www.whatcar.com/news/bmw-x3-vs-jagu...t-verdict/ At work
At home

"I can't always believe facts I read on the web" - Charles Dickens

winner by default of the tractor vs caravan race

30th Mar 2017 3:50 pm

Spatch

Member Since: 20 Feb 2015
Location: Kent
Posts: 170

Re: Dart Practice / BMW X3 Pics

Very nice, love the wheels. BMW X3 30d M Sport - Current (problem free)
2014 SD4 Auto HSE Lux - Gone (too many problems)
2012 TD4 Manual XS - Gone (too many problems)

30th Mar 2017 10:13 pm

shilen

Member Since: 29 Feb 2008
Location: In the Middle
Posts: 1774

2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Bali Blue

Some interior pics as requested
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Check out the mpg, usually get around 45mpg
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Head up display is fantastic, I thought it would be a distraction but now couldn't live without it, gives mph, satnav directions, radio stations when you go to alter them, even comes up with the callers name if the phone rings
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Now - 2017 BMW X3 M Sport Carbon Black
Gone - 2014 BMW X3 M Sport Space Grey, faultless!
Gone - 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Bali Blue with xenons
Gone - 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Rimini Red with bodykit

10th Apr 2017 9:58 am

shilen

Member Since: 29 Feb 2008
Location: In the Middle
Posts: 1774

Hey look I have two wheels on the rough stuff, twice as many as last time....

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10th Apr 2017 10:01 am

iain cooper

Member Since: 27 Aug 2007
Location: north of Glasgow
Posts: 1989

2009 Freelander 2 TD4_e HSE Manual Lago Grey

really nice, different class.

Iain

10th Apr 2017 5:47 pm

Tigger

Member Since: 30 Mar 2011
Location: L15KRD
Posts: 2555

chicken george wrote:
http://www.whatcar.com/news/bmw-x3-vs-jaguar-f-pace-vs-land-rover-discovery-sport-verdict/

If you're a BMW-ist, none of this will mean anything!

10th Apr 2017 8:23 pm

j77

Member Since: 26 Nov 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 2909

My beautiful D5 has 3 MPG readings to choose from, based on 100 miles since fuelling.

Trip computer - 34.5
Cars eco data - 38.3
Remote app thing - 37.7

Liking the interior choice, the red breaks up the whiteness 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

11th Apr 2017 11:45 am

chicken george

Member Since: 05 Dec 2007
Location: N. Yorks
Posts: 13289

A BMW salesman once told me his average BMW customer knows nothing about cars, many can barely drive, they just by BMW because they hear they are the best. At work
At home

"I can't always believe facts I read on the web" - Charles Dickens

winner by default of the tractor vs caravan race

16th Apr 2017 7:27 am

Tigger

Member Since: 30 Mar 2011
Location: L15KRD
Posts: 2555

Now now CG! BMW's appeal does go far deeper than "hearing they are the best". The showrooms are very nice too (with cars always parked in nice straight lines, as laid down by BMW) and their marketing, particularly anything involving a promotional video, is industry leading.

17th Apr 2017 6:39 am

shilen

Member Since: 29 Feb 2008
Location: In the Middle
Posts: 1774

chicken george wrote:
A BMW salesman once told me his average BMW customer knows nothing about cars, many can barely drive, they just by BMW because they hear they are the best.

A Land Rover salesman once told me that their cars were brilliant and that the customer service was in another class. That was before one dealer spent 3 weeks trying to fix something that in the end they admitted they couldn't and suggesting I go somewhere else, another dealer who damaged my FL2 and then denied doing it, numerous unanswered phone calls from service departments and my last FL2 that after 3 years and 35000 miles required TWO replacement Haldex units, a new rear diff and a new aux tension belt.. Hmmmm I know which dealership I would rather enter...

17th Apr 2017 8:29 pm

Hippo

Member Since: 23 Feb 2014
Location: uk
Posts: 140

That bmw could do with the white wall tyre upgrade. just saying. Hippo's videos - Honorary Tratterer

17th Apr 2017 10:25 pm

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