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Stuartc



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Australia 2015 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Aintree Green

Yikkes... Shocked
Bit hard comparing a snapped crank to pinion bearing which most likely wasn't assembled correctly...... Rolling Eyes
I know which one I would prefer to have to fix..... MY15
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Post #321179 11th Apr 2017 5:06 am
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Tigger



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I did also refer to the relative frequency of failure (i.e. catastrophic failure but unusual, Vs significant failure, though manageable, but virtually inevitable given enough miles).

Post #321180 11th Apr 2017 5:40 am
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Stuartc



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Australia 2015 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Aintree Green

If you want to compare apples with apples then simply looking at waranty claims for L319 v L359 will answere your question. MY15
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Post #321187 11th Apr 2017 7:09 am
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Tigger



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If it were possible to access that data, it would help. Even then, it might be difficult to draw a direct comparison without be sure we are comparing equally hard used vehicles. There are likely to be more L319's doing commercial work and / or hauling heavy trailers.

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Stuartc



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As an Ex National Fleet Manager i did have access to warranty information and L319 was considerably higher both running costs and warranty work over a vehicles lease life.
None of the vehicles either L319 or L359 were being used/should have been being used, for anything other than normal fleet conditions otherwise this would require a special lease agreement. MY15
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Digital Broadcast TV
Meridian Rear Media with WIFI
Factory Powered Tailgate
Blind Spot Monitoring (BSM)
Reverse Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA)
Electrochromatic Wing Mirrors (WIP)

Post #321207 11th Apr 2017 9:44 am
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Tigger wrote:
That'll be as a result of a spun main bearing then! It's all swings and roundabouts though, D4's may have a small % of crank failures, but FL2's tend to have their more regular Haldex and rear diff issues. Neither of is get off too lightly! Wink


The Indy near me has a D4 and two RRS's in his workshop with snapped cranks.

But with LR fitting a replacement lump under the bonnet at circa 12k a Haldex and a Diff comes in cheap. p****d off with a Digital Keyboard Warrior

Post #321233 11th Apr 2017 4:56 pm
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Tigger



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Okay, one last go - crank in D4 is hideously expensive but exceptional - Haldex / rear diff in FL2 much less expensive, but a near certainty. I've got no axe to grind here - I like both cars, now let's move on! Thumbs Up

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Confused Kin axe to grind, move on, is no one allowed to comment. p****d off with a Digital Keyboard Warrior

Post #321235 11th Apr 2017 6:20 pm
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Tigger



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Yes, of course Thumbs Up it just seemed that no one was considering the frequency of that failure Sad

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Stuartc



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I understand completely, but this is a forum and
Usually only hear from Those with a complaint, rather than the many owners who have no issues. MY15
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Digital Broadcast TV
Meridian Rear Media with WIFI
Factory Powered Tailgate
Blind Spot Monitoring (BSM)
Reverse Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA)
Electrochromatic Wing Mirrors (WIP)

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Benhoss



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Just changed from D4 to 2013 freelander 2 & well pleased so far. Only had D4 for 8 months & it went back to garage 7 times & was starting to blue smoke under heavy excelleration so it had to go ! FL 2 is best part £300 less to tax, less to insure, 8mpg more, done half the miles & 4 years younger for virtually the same money. Missed the v6 sound & smoothness for few days but the take no notice now. Had 07 D3 for 6 years previously, theD4 wasn't the car I thought it was going to be, better dash etc & facelift but just never felt the same to drive as D3.so far FL2 is very impressive.

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