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Steve D



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Recommendations for a new boiler

As above for you heating experts. Our one has just about had it now and is 26 years old so I'm not spending any more on it.

It's a potterton profile 60 and it's a heat only boiler. Absolutely everything in the system has recently been replaced/modernised/updated so just looking for a like for like replacement. The fitter that did work on the rest of the system a few months ago (converting to a sealed system, unvented hot water tank, power flush, new zone valves, digital programmer and thermostat) said at the time that when the 60,000 BTU boiler needed replacing, we could get away with a smaller one as they are much more efficient these days. Is that right? What would you recommend and why? Presumably I'd need a magnetic filter fitting too? Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
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gasman



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Can't go wrong with a Worcester Bosch. Not the cheapest but the best. Thumbs Up

Just picked up question regarding boiler size.
Theoretically when changing from a conventional boiler to a condensing boiler you should put a slightly smaller boiler in. Reason being the boiler will only condence i.e. work at peak efficiency when working at maximum rate. Once it modulates down it no longer condenses. Therefore a boiler sized at 80 percent of the total house requirement would be sufficient.
The down side is that this leaves no room for expanding the system.
Personally I would go for like for like sizing.In your case 18kw. But that's just me Thumbs Up Now at the point when I learn something new something old is lost out the other side !
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monkeybrain1234



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As above. Worcester or Valiant.

But I would go with Worcester. Freelander 2 LE Sport - Largo Grey
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dorsetfreelander



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Re: Recommendations for a new boiler

Steve D wrote:
said at the time that when the 60,000 BTU boiler needed replacing, we could get away with a smaller one as they are much more efficient these days.


I don't know much about gas boilers but Physics (laws of thermodynamics) says that you will still need a 60k btu boiler to produce that much heat regardless of its efficiency and size. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
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taztastic



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Recently had an ATAG boiler fitted, way quieter than Worcester and full of metal fittings, not a plastic one in site. Same guarantee as the Worcester offering, worth a look.

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Is that a new boiler or replacing an old boiler. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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Bill Turner



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monkeybrain1234 wrote:
As above. Worcester or Valiant.

But I would go with Worcester.


Funny that I would not install a Worcester even if you gave it me FOC!
Valiant every time. Thumbs Up

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gasman



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Valiant were good, gone down hill a bit recently. Now at the point when I learn something new something old is lost out the other side !
Now retired so it doesn't matter anymore.
Freelander now gone.

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taztastic wrote:
Recently had an ATAG boiler fitted, way quieter than Worcester and full of metal fittings, not a plastic one in site. Same guarantee as the Worcester offering, worth a look.


i spoke with my plumber at work regard ATAG, he had fitted one previously, problem was when a part was needed, non in UK and had to wait 4 weeks for it to be shipped over, disgruntled customer etc Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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archie98



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Ideal Logic every time

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gasman



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Don't know much about the Logic but Carodon which is the parent company of Ideal Standard almost went bust due to the failure of the Ideal Isar and Icos. They had to pay a huge amount of compensation to customers and installers due to flooding issues etc.
Could be that they have learned a lesson and the Logic is a superior boiler. I haven't touched an Ideal boiler since the Isar.
Just my opinion for what its worth. Now at the point when I learn something new something old is lost out the other side !
Now retired so it doesn't matter anymore.
Freelander now gone.

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Stevie5tapes



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npinks wrote:
taztastic wrote:
Recently had an ATAG boiler fitted, way quieter than Worcester and full of metal fittings, not a plastic one in site. Same guarantee as the Worcester offering, worth a look.


i spoke with my plumber at work regard ATAG, he had fitted one previously, problem was when a part was needed, non in UK and had to wait 4 weeks for it to be shipped over, disgruntled customer etc


I've got a Veissmann, its German and said to be very good by people in the trade. It let me down a couple of years ago and had to wait a week for the part to come from Germany. Next time I need a new boiler i'll be looking for one where the parts are readily available off the shelf. Black MY2013 SD4 GS Auto, Wood Company Armrest, Freel2 sticker.
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Steve D



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archie98 wrote:
Ideal Logic every time

So that's two for Ideal Logic. Started looking at them and the Logic 15 seemed to be the one I would need. Then I stated looking for reviews and found this: http://www.reviewcentre.com/Boilers/Ideal-...ws_1395333 although those reviews are 4-6 years old - perhaps the newer ones are better?

I guess its like any car forum - you're only going to get to hear of the problem cases? Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
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dorsetfreelander



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My old boiler is doing fine. I married her in 1973. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
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