Stuartc wrote:

Really, I was trying to be as positive and objective as possible about the DS but driving home after having the DS for the day in my Freelander 2 was just such a relief, felt so much more special especially the driving position and softer ride. The DS is
Ok but that's it.
Actually a friend of mine in Sydney's been trying to update his Freelander 2, he currently has a
2011 SE and has missed out so many times on late model vehicle. Keep getting sold from under his feet, last one was a 2014 Si4 with Nav, was sold by the time he arrived at the dealer to test drive, so he's given up and is going to buy a Disco 4. He also didn't like the DS.

Very interesting. It's a bit like that with D4's here now; despite adding 6,000 miles to the 12,900 miles it had when I bought it nearly 2 1/2 months ago and it being (nominally) another year older, the trade value of it is higher now than it was then! I hope your friend finds what he's looking for

youve got about 3 hours to talk me out of it At work
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"I can't always believe facts I read on the web" - Charles Dickens

winner by default of the tractor vs caravan race

How about 10.

1 Build quality issues
2 Overpriced.
3 Load space unusable (not flat)
4 Why would you want to fill your car with even more children.
5 Some interesting alternatives just around the corner from Skoda maybe
6 Wait for next Defender
7 DS thread may not get your humour
8 We will miss you
9 Divorcee as Wife will think you have money
10 Tax man will think you have money FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

Apart from the fact I am not in the running for a new car "Pensioner & all that", I have found the DS underwhelming to say the least. Having ridden in a Halewood demo, and later having a loaner, TBH, I preferred the Ewok  10MY (Sept 09) TD4 HSE Auto in Stornoway Grey (Now Gone)

08 FL2 TD4 SE Manual in Rimini Red (Now Gone)

Is it really over priced ? try pricing other cars up to similar spec,, kia is £40500, kia will probably discount strongly but still. vw audi bmw all shake of similar. even nissan are up there.

Nfu discount is a bit of a red herring, using it excludes you from other incentives so its in one hand out of the next, still worth doing but the gloss has gone. little negotiation is possible once you play the nfu card its a fixed scheme.

And in these brexit days atleast the LR is British built.

other points
Ive told the wife to tell her child rearing buddies that we bought a 5 seat car. I dont want other peoples urchins climbing over my seats.
The main time is pickup from cub scouts, at present we all take all the kids in two trips. but a seven seater will save the other families making a trip . even more reason to keep quiet

The tax man is already having an big bite out of me, not due to profit but due to agricultural land related things out of my control.
The wife thinking Im wealthy thing , Im trading down from a RRS after all. Ok a low spec budget RRS but still
Load space irrelevant. I have a pickup truck for collecting occasional outsized items

Im gradually introducing my caravan bigotry to the DSforum, youve got to get under their skin with it not slap them hard in the face. its an art form

Ill be staying on freel2 its the only forum that doesnt take itself too seriously. most people enjoy a bit of nonsense aslong as they ultimatly get some sensible chat mixed in. At work
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"I can't always believe facts I read on the web" - Charles Dickens

winner by default of the tractor vs caravan race

Anything that has "7 seat/er" in its description "makes me soft"......  MY15
Tyre Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)
Surround Camera System
InControl Apps soon to be replaced with CarPlay (WIP)
Meridian Premium Surround Sound
Digital Audio Broadcast
Timed Climate
Cruise ECO Data
Follow Me Home Reverse
Extra Features Menu
Picture In Motion
4x4i screen (WIP)
Digital Broadcast TV
Meridian Rear Media with WIFI
Factory Powered Tailgate
Blind Spot Monitoring (BSM)
Reverse Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA)
Electrochromatic Wing Mirrors (WIP)

Too late to stop me now At work
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"I can't always believe facts I read on the web" - Charles Dickens

winner by default of the tractor vs caravan race

Too late to stop me now double post stpid phone

This post has been edited by the site administration team- we are unable to fix faulty and unreliable keyboard interface modules  At work
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"I can't always believe facts I read on the web" - Charles Dickens

winner by default of the tractor vs caravan race

Or to put it another way

... you can't fix stupid

chicken george wrote:

Im gradually introducing my caravan bigotry to the DSforum, youve got to get under their skin with it not slap them hard in the face. its an art form

Thanks for the warning  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

http://www.caradvice.com.au/515372/2016-17...-property/

Risk of fire! Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

Acoustic insulation ARB TPMS 3xARB air compressors After cooler Air tank On-board OCD pressure air/water cleaning Additional 50L fuel Carpet in doors ABE 2x1kg Waeco 28L modified fridge Battery 4x26ah Solar 120w Victron MPPT 100/20 DC-DC 18amps 175amp jumper plug Awning 6x255/60R18

O dear LR......
Sure it's too late Chicken George......

Phark....how many problems does this bring the count to now for the DS
Thank god I didn't buy one. MY15
Tyre Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)
Surround Camera System
InControl Apps soon to be replaced with CarPlay (WIP)
Meridian Premium Surround Sound
Digital Audio Broadcast
Timed Climate
Cruise ECO Data
Follow Me Home Reverse
Extra Features Menu
Picture In Motion
4x4i screen (WIP)
Digital Broadcast TV
Meridian Rear Media with WIFI
Factory Powered Tailgate
Blind Spot Monitoring (BSM)
Reverse Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA)
Electrochromatic Wing Mirrors (WIP)

Last edited by Stuartc on 19th Jan 2017 1:41 pm. Edited 1 time in total

Some MY16 were delayed due to wiring loom foul risk so surprised MY17 having problems - would of thought lesson learned by now but then again  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Stuartc wrote:

Phark....how many problems does this bring the count to now for the DS
Thank god I didn't but one.

Unfortunately I did and stopped counting at 12 issues then I sold it

4000 trouble free miles now in the phev and the last 7 years/3 LR lemons are fading from memory - I still look with envy when I see green oval but then I think of the dealers and the trips to sort things and it passes  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Lightwater wrote:

http://www.caradvice.com.au/515372/2016-17-land-rover-discovery-sport-range-rover-evoque-recalled-owners-urged-to-park-away-from-property/

Risk of fire!

How did that advert go "come home to a real fire"  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!