Forum-Gallery-Shop-Sponsors

« Advertise on Freel2.com

Home > General > Cha Cha Cha
Post Reply  Down to end
Page 1 of 2 12>
Print this entire topic · 
Cclr2



Member Since: 17 Sep 2015
Location: Stansted
Posts: 79

United Kingdom 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Lux Auto Galway Green
Cha Cha Cha

I have a 2011 facelift SD4. I have had the car fir about 9 months and I love it.
I have done about 8000 miles in it since buying it. It now has just over 39000 miles.

Recently the car has started to 'stutter' ocasionally when changing gear. It doesn't change gear smoothly when this happens. It seems to be mainly from first to second gear but I think it also happens occasionally at higher speeds / gears but when under low engine load.

When it happens, the car makes a 'cha cha cha' noise. It sounds like it is coming from the grabox or central tunnel areas.
Where is the Haldex unit?
Could it be Haldex or gearbox?

Anyone experienced this in the past.

Thanks in advance for your help FL2 HSE Lux 2011 SD4 Gallway Green.
Fiesta 2014 Ttanium x 1.0 ecoboost - Fantastic 125 bhp 1.0l 3 cylinder turbo!
1976 Triumph Spitfire. Owned for 25 years Fully restored, magazine features - not quite standard Wink
1985 Toyota MR2 MK1a. The oldest surviving example in the UK and one of only 5 left in 8B8 Blue

Post #301376 25th Jun 2016 6:48 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
BarryKey



Member Since: 28 Dec 2012
Location: Essex
Posts: 77

United Kingdom 2012 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Auto Orkney Grey

Hello. I have a 2011 facelift TD4 auto with 50k miles and it has just done the same over the last 2 weeks. Haldex was replaced last year after pump failure so hope it is not that again. Seems like it can't decide which gear to be in, misses out 3rd and then jumps into 2nd and stutters and jumps before it settles down again. Getting in touch with my indie, DS automotive in Rayleigh over next few days to see if they can shed light on it. Will keep you informed. 12MY 61plate FL2 TD4 auto GS Orkney Grey Roof spoiler full size spare

Gone 07 Dodge Caliber 1.8 black
51 Nissan Primera
K Isuzu Trooper 3.1 SWB Citation

Post #301414 26th Jun 2016 3:09 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Cclr2



Member Since: 17 Sep 2015
Location: Stansted
Posts: 79

United Kingdom 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Lux Auto Galway Green

Thanks Barry.
Does yours also make the cha cha cha noise? FL2 HSE Lux 2011 SD4 Gallway Green.
Fiesta 2014 Ttanium x 1.0 ecoboost - Fantastic 125 bhp 1.0l 3 cylinder turbo!
1976 Triumph Spitfire. Owned for 25 years Fully restored, magazine features - not quite standard Wink
1985 Toyota MR2 MK1a. The oldest surviving example in the UK and one of only 5 left in 8B8 Blue

Post #301416 26th Jun 2016 3:52 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
BarryKey



Member Since: 28 Dec 2012
Location: Essex
Posts: 77

United Kingdom 2012 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Auto Orkney Grey

I had not thought of it like that but seems a good description. It's booked in for next Wednesday. I'll let you know how I get on. 12MY 61plate FL2 TD4 auto GS Orkney Grey Roof spoiler full size spare

Gone 07 Dodge Caliber 1.8 black
51 Nissan Primera
K Isuzu Trooper 3.1 SWB Citation

Post #301515 27th Jun 2016 7:43 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Cclr2



Member Since: 17 Sep 2015
Location: Stansted
Posts: 79

United Kingdom 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Lux Auto Galway Green

Great. Thank you FL2 HSE Lux 2011 SD4 Gallway Green.
Fiesta 2014 Ttanium x 1.0 ecoboost - Fantastic 125 bhp 1.0l 3 cylinder turbo!
1976 Triumph Spitfire. Owned for 25 years Fully restored, magazine features - not quite standard Wink
1985 Toyota MR2 MK1a. The oldest surviving example in the UK and one of only 5 left in 8B8 Blue

Post #301516 27th Jun 2016 7:44 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
alex_pescaru



Member Since: 12 Mar 2009
Location: RO
Posts: 4642

Is the sound like this?
If yes, you should look a little to the turbo and its ancillaries...

Post #301523 27th Jun 2016 8:52 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Cclr2



Member Since: 17 Sep 2015
Location: Stansted
Posts: 79

United Kingdom 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Lux Auto Galway Green

A bit. Could it be turbo then? It coincides with a stutter which feels like a delayed gear change or a drop in power FL2 HSE Lux 2011 SD4 Gallway Green.
Fiesta 2014 Ttanium x 1.0 ecoboost - Fantastic 125 bhp 1.0l 3 cylinder turbo!
1976 Triumph Spitfire. Owned for 25 years Fully restored, magazine features - not quite standard Wink
1985 Toyota MR2 MK1a. The oldest surviving example in the UK and one of only 5 left in 8B8 Blue

Post #301529 27th Jun 2016 9:25 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
h20tgp



Member Since: 28 Dec 2015
Location: Holywell
Posts: 38

Wales 

I have delivered at least two brand new Evoque autos that seemed to suffer what you call cha cha cha.

It seems to happen when you have been cruising along at a set speed and then want to accelerate.

It feels as though the box is confused for a second or two and it judders until it wakes up.

May be something totally different and both cars had less than 200 miles on the clock.

Tom

Post #301530 27th Jun 2016 9:31 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Cclr2



Member Since: 17 Sep 2015
Location: Stansted
Posts: 79

United Kingdom 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Lux Auto Galway Green

Thats very intersting Tom. Mine does seem to do it after steady cruising Too! FL2 HSE Lux 2011 SD4 Gallway Green.
Fiesta 2014 Ttanium x 1.0 ecoboost - Fantastic 125 bhp 1.0l 3 cylinder turbo!
1976 Triumph Spitfire. Owned for 25 years Fully restored, magazine features - not quite standard Wink
1985 Toyota MR2 MK1a. The oldest surviving example in the UK and one of only 5 left in 8B8 Blue

Post #301531 27th Jun 2016 9:37 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
carlsson



Member Since: 15 Dec 2015
Location: Fife
Posts: 88

Scotland 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

Is it the pressure relief/dump Valve?
And if so where is it situated on the Car

No dump valve on a diesel Embarassed 2007 hse auto

Post #301538 28th Jun 2016 4:52 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
BarryKey



Member Since: 28 Dec 2012
Location: Essex
Posts: 77

United Kingdom 2012 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Auto Orkney Grey

Latest report. Took it to DS Automotive in Leigh. They had it for 21/2 days. Connected it to diagnostic computer. Computer said no fault. 4 different technicians agreed there was a problem but it was so intermittent that they could not decide or agree what it might be. Rather than throw money at an undiagnosed problem they suggested continue to use it until the fault becomes more obvious and then look at a diagnosis then. All credit to them though, they did not charge me anything, not even for the diagnostics. 12MY 61plate FL2 TD4 auto GS Orkney Grey Roof spoiler full size spare

Gone 07 Dodge Caliber 1.8 black
51 Nissan Primera
K Isuzu Trooper 3.1 SWB Citation

Post #302425 10th Jul 2016 4:52 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
keikeimok



Member Since: 01 Nov 2013
Location: Guildford
Posts: 88

United Kingdom 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Barolo Black

Hi guys,
I have the same issue and I raised it to the main dealer while it was on its 2rd service from new (20k on the clock) It was exactly the same thing happened as mentioned here. It happened only on slow speed picking up from stop when gear changes from 1st to 2nd. (Auto)
While the 'cha cha cha' sometimes 'cha cha cha cha' happens, the power dropped with stuttering like skidding on the back wheels.

Main dealer said they cannot find anything special on the codes and they denied that there was a fault. What should I say... Rolling Eyes Freelander 2 XS MY 2012, 19" rims, Barolo Black. Privacy glass, spoiler.

Post #302483 11th Jul 2016 8:23 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
snappa



Member Since: 16 Apr 2008
Location: Watching C-beams near the Tanhauser Gate
Posts: 1633

Scotland 2013 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Buckingham Blue

Isn't it funny these days that these technicians can acknowledge there is a fault but because the diagnostic computer says there isn't one showing up they just shrug and agree there isn't a problem! Rolling Eyes

Post #302600 12th Jul 2016 11:40 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
npinks



Member Since: 28 Jun 2007
Location: Ls25
Posts: 20090

United Kingdom 

I heard the Cha Cha Cha sound on my manual FL2.1, and then again on my Auto FL2.2 and i'm still to hear it on Fl2.3, but i have been assured that it is a characteristic of the FL2..... In other words a designed in noise Rolling Eyes Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

Post #302602 12th Jul 2016 12:54 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Cclr2



Member Since: 17 Sep 2015
Location: Stansted
Posts: 79

United Kingdom 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Lux Auto Galway Green

Thanks for the update Barry and thanks for the feedback chaps.

I took mine back to the supplying dealer today (Ongar Bridge 4x4) who a re a land rover / range rover specialist.

I have to say, their service was faultless. They made a technician available immediately who said he knew just what i meant by my description.
He took it for a test drive with me and was a able to recreate the issue and confirm it is what he thought it was.

He said it is the variable geometry turbo. He has seen it many times on FL2s but mainly on Autos. He said it is a characteristic of the Turbo which occurs when the turbo spins down, releases pressure and the revs are at a certain sweet spot. The auto hits the sweet spot a lot as the gear changes are determined but the manuals rarely do.
Apparently they have never seen an issue escalate beyond this. so he was not concerned and was confident that it would not cause an issue. He has seen it on cars with all sorts of mileages (Even very low mileages).
The technician said they used to change the turbos out when this was reported but it often made no difference and in some cases it made the noise more pronounced so they don't do that anymore.

They then took the car off to check the diagnostics (encouraging that they did not do this first) and found nothing but a low fuel message (?). They reset the code and did a software update relating to the EGR that 'could' be related to some intermittent loss of power issues.

SO....DO I TRUST HIM? YES....and here is why.

After he returned my car and explained everything, i mentioned a metallic rattle i get when starting the car. I showed him and he said ' i bet you have a stone caught in your cat heat shield...let me take it back and remove it'.
So he did..and he came back with the stone and no rattle.
He then stated that when they removed the bottom cover, they noticed an oil stain so investigated and found the rear (crank?) seal was leaking and suggested i book it in for a free repair.
So, they were definitely not avoiding work for the sake of it.

All round, excellent service and no charge. I shall keep an eye on the issue to see if it deteriorates but it was refreshing to be treated so well on a warranty issue.

Well done ONGAR BRIDGE

Address
Ongar Bridge Motor Company
24 High Street
Chipping Ongar
Essex.
CM5 9DZ

Telephone 01277 366661
Fax 01277 366662

They have three VERY NICE late FL2s in stock too. A dark blue 14 plate HSE, a beautiful red 63 plate HSE and a lovely green 14 plate Metropolis. FL2 HSE Lux 2011 SD4 Gallway Green.
Fiesta 2014 Ttanium x 1.0 ecoboost - Fantastic 125 bhp 1.0l 3 cylinder turbo!
1976 Triumph Spitfire. Owned for 25 years Fully restored, magazine features - not quite standard Wink
1985 Toyota MR2 MK1a. The oldest surviving example in the UK and one of only 5 left in 8B8 Blue

Post #302970 19th Jul 2016 9:56 am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Post Reply  Back to top
Page 1 of 2 12>
All times are GMT

Jump to  
Previous Topic | Next Topic >
Posting Rules
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



Site Copyright © 2006-2024 Futuranet Ltd & Martin Lewis
Freel2.com RSS Feed - All Forums


Switch to Mobile site