Not according to Mr Farage when interviewed back in May. Sauce for goose…..

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And Scotland is planning to have another independence referendum. But isn't that the way politicians play the democracy game - if you don't get the answer you want then keep on having referendums until you do.

David Cameron is in the mire as not only did he loose but when Farage thought he was going to loose by a small margin he suggested a second referendum DC said we don't hold "neverendums". But, has anyone ever heard of a politician going against his word?

The sad thing is because DC promised the referendum in the hope of getting a few UKIP voters to vote for him in the general election the whole country has to pay the price and stick with the bad situation we are now in. Fuel prices have already gone up as has the price of your holiday abroad and there is more to come.

J

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

not too late to change your mind !!

Iain

The scots can't have another referendum .. Wee noddy can bitch all she wants but it can't happen. Do it now ! Your a long time dead !!

I expect it will happen. This is the "material change" they have been hoping for, and I personally know a huge amount of people who voted tactically to try and force a 2nd referendum

Legally it can't happen Do it now ! Your a long time dead !!

Do you know what annoys me about this whole thing? Because the people who voted to leave outnumbered the people to remain, then the remain people are asking for a second referendum. How can that possibly happen in a democracy? And where would it end? Just because they didn't get the result they wanted, the toys are out the pram. So does that mean in every referendum we all have a few goes till we get the result that the minority want? It's ridiculous!!! We should all accept that's what the voting resulted in and try and move forward and make this a better country to live. Do it now ! Your a long time dead !!

I think Scotland will definitely have a 2nd referendum about leaving the UK within 2 years, provided of course the EU says they can join.

There will not be a re-run of the In \ Out referendum for the UK, that's just ridiculous. What's also ridiculous is the younger generation blaming the older generation for voting leave, as the younger generation turnout was low.

The 2nd referendum has come about because prior to the referendum someone did one of those gov petition things stating that if the vote to leave was successful a 2nd vote should be held if the turnout was below 75% (and not many turnouts ever reach that figure) and the leave vote was less than 60%. So it really has no other basis than that.

Presumably the 2nd referendum wouldn't have to meet that criteria otherwise you would have to keep having referendums until the criteria was met. But if the 2nd referendum won the right to reverse the decision by a narrow margin it would be valid but the 1st wasn't. A really stupid scenario. 
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If Scotland had voted to leave the union in the last vote, they would have been out of Europe anyway. Now they are coming out, they want to be in. I tell you what, have the vote again and this time just let the other home nations vote on it instead of Scotland. They'll soon get their wish! Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
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Well .... Just think of all the extra jobs being created all the irish comeing over to England to build Hadrians wall higher,between England and Scotland ,
Then them digging a trench from North to South Wales keep them all empoyed for at least 10 years ,(plus all the extra taxes going to all the different goverments )
full employment (think of all the extra bordergaurds) for both sides of the Scottish /English border, revenue persons , then the same for Wales /England plus large internment camps for all the illeagal persons crossing all the borders plus all the extra burger vans selling (kosher food ) all uk countries will have fastest growing econimies in the world then everyone will want to copy our role model ... loads of dosh ...  Wales
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Purplemadboy wrote:

Legally it can't happen

As far as I'm aware the only one to be talking about cancelling the Touquet agreement is that stupid Mayor of Calais, she is the one who said the immigration problem was Britains fault because it of its generous benefits system. The media has of course jumped on that, never miss a chance to do some scare mongering. Not 24 hours after the vote finished they were interviewing some fruit farmer asking him how is he going to survive without any immigrants workers. Idiots. 
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In an interview with Gordon Brewer this morning, Ms Sturgeon displayed an utter lack of understanding of the way Scottish people vote, mistaking the resolve of the Scottish majority's vote for Remain as a vote for "independence" if it was Leave in the UK. She made the suggestion, (amid a flurry of nine separate occasions where she habitually but needlessly referred to herself as First Minister), that it may be that the only way Scotland could remain in the EU is by being an "independent" country. She also intimated that the most logical time-scale would be in the period of time after Article 50 has been triggered and final exit, that is up until early 2019.

Of course, this is utterly pie-in-the-sky. It is constitutionally (and legally) impossible for another referendum to take place within that time-scale or without; it is also massively unlikely (as Ms Sturgeon knows only too well) that the outcome would be a favourable one for the SNP. It is certainly the very last and very desperate option that she would consider, as it could (and very likely would) test the SNP (and her leadership) to utter destruction.

For a referendum to be held, there are currently only two options open to Ms Sturgeon. She can either dissolve the Scottish Parliament and call for a Scottish Election. If she then won a majority, inserted a politically essential mandate in her manifesto and applied for a Section 30, then that is a legitimate route. Alternatively, she will need to wait until 2021, win a majority, insert the required mandate and apply for a Section 30. At present, she cannot "call" for a referendum for these precise reasons. Period.

"Independence" will absolutely not bring EU membership. The Scottish Government fails to meet very many of the economic and fiscal expectations, the core principles of EU membership, laid out very clearly in what became known as the Copenhagen Criteria (1993), which must be met upon application and long before any negotiations can take place.

The level of blackmail and bribery she is attempting to lever out of the Scottish electorate by gilding her narrative of EU membership and saying "independence" may be the only path to attain membership is a divisive and utterly deceitful, insincere invention. She will doubtlessly eventually "promise" EU membership for a Scotland who voted to stay, but her codicil will be "first, let me deliver "independence". Do it now ! Your a long time dead !!