So here's the problem. I have a very nice 2010 HSE, but I've never really liked the pre-face lift interior. But I do like the fact I don't have a DPF.

So if I get a 2013 MY HSE, I'll get the nicer interior, but inherit a DPF at the same time (I think?).

Question is, would I regret changing? I do all short journeys of about 5 miles to work and back. The one I have appears to be ultra reliable. Would I regret going to a DPF version doing such short miles?

Thoughts please.

On 2nd FL2 with DPF no issues, don't know what all the fuss is. Wife's Evoque also DPF, her commute similar to yours again no issues. We only use branded fuel 2014 SE Loire Blue SD4 Auto (MY15)
Gone - 2011 GS Baltic Blue, Retrofit Electric Leather, Side Steps, 19"SC's, Roof Rails, TT Sat Nav Mod, Retrofit Premium Audio, Retro fit 2013 Xenons with DRL & Sig Strip (Clutch at 47k)
Gone - 2007 GS Narvik Black, Privacy Glass, 19" SC's, Side Steps,Roof Rails, Roof Spoiler, Lamp Guards, Retrofit Electric Leather (Clutch at 115k)
Gone - 2007 SE Santorini Black (Clutch at 120k)
BT IID (best money ever spent on a car)

I'd avoid a Dpf equipped car if its just local/urban driving .

Mark 2009 FL2 TD4 SE (Sadly gone)
2007 FL2 TD4 GS (The wifes , gone after 8 great years)
2012 FL2 SD4 SPORT LE(Gone and missing it)
2015 DISCOVERY SPORT 2.2SD4 HSE (Now gone)
2014 Ford Bmax 1.0 ecoboost ( Gone but what next )
2014 Ford Focus 2.0tdci Zetec S (Gone,but what a car)
2020 Ford Fiesta ActiveX 1.0 Ecoboost
2024 Skoda Kodiaq 1.5 Tsi SEL

I've had 6 LRs with DPF, I'm lucky if I do 6,000mls a year. Never had a problem, an occasional long run just to keep everything nice and clean. My current Disco uses AdBlue also, again no problems so far. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

My mechanic told me not to get diesel as I do mostly short trips, only 5400 km on the clock, but unfortunately you don't have a petrol option. He said to me DPF are a problem with only short trips. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

Acoustic insulation ARB TPMS 3xARB air compressors After cooler Air tank On-board OCD pressure air/water cleaning Additional 50L fuel Carpet in doors ABE 2x1kg Waeco 28L modified fridge Battery 4x26ah Solar 120w Victron MPPT 100/20 DC-DC 18amps 175amp jumper plug Awning 6x255/60R18

Mine is a 2011 so im thinking it has the DPF..... 7 MILES TO WORK 7 HOME ........NIL PROBLEMS... on my days off shift i do get out and about (gun club) 60 mile round trip.. 2011 SD4 XS

Jim NI wrote:

.....Wife's Evoque also DPF, her commute similar to yours again no issues. We only use branded fuel

I suppose it's one more thing to go wrong, on mine the DPF hasn't been a problem but I have had a DPF exhaust gas temp sensor fail twice and a cracked DPF pressure pipe (whatever that is). 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

This DPF discussion is so funny ....

In Austria all new diesel cars since 2006 need to be equipped with DPF. We had a VW Touran and now a BMW 320d as second car, both with DPF, both doing short trips in town most of the time. Not any DPF issue so far.

We have a market penetration of >65% of diesel cars here in Austria. In the early days there where some issues if running only short trips, nowadays there aren't any more. This is one of this mystics like the early ABS times .....

Three Fl2's so far and three with DPF's, not one problem associated with the DPF. I took early retirement within that period whereas I use to do a 11 mile each way trip, most days now its a few miles to where I walk the dog with a couple of extremely long trips towing. Manufacturers software written for the car and its DPF makes a great difference, and LR's is good.

Don't be put off by a FL2 with a DPF.

A couple of friends had DPF equipped Citroen DS3's; one did low mileage / short journeys, the other was the complete opposite. Both had disasterously unreliable DPF's. Meanwhile I've never had any problems with DPF's on all three of my FL2, or my D4, except for one month in the D4 when, instead of doing 3,000 miles a month, it dropped to less than 800, with lots of short journeys. That's the only time I've had the DPF light come on. Since I've gone back to normal mileage it's been fine.

I like the idea of PDF's, but I'd share your concerns about one for low mileage until conclusively proven wrong!

Kevin56 wrote:

So here's the problem. I have a very nice 2010 HSE, but I've never really liked the pre-face lift interior. But I do like the fact I don't have a DPF.

So if I get a 2013 MY HSE, I'll get the nicer interior, but inherit a DPF at the same time (I think?).

Question is, would I regret changing? I do all short journeys of about 5 miles to work and back. The one I have appears to be ultra reliable. Would I regret going to a DPF version doing such short miles?

Thoughts please.

Just give the car a long run once a month & it will be ok

Just repeating what others have already said. Doing the same journey's as yourself, only 6-8K each year for last 9 years and on 3rd vehicle with DPF and no problems to date. No longer embarrassed by the black ploom of smoke when I floor it

One or two longer trips a month should be enough to keep it clear.

Well the balance of evidence seems to point at not worrying about the DPF too much. All I need to do now is persuade the wife that it's worth spending another £10k so I have a slightly different radio display. Can't see any problems looming there...

There was issues with FL2 and DPF in Germany in the early years, this was solved with a new software update.
I have a 2008 with DPF and live only 8 km away from work with no issues so far.
The only benefit a FL2 DPF less can have is the ability to close completely the EGR valve and of course for a high mileage car there is one less component to worry about