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Yorky Bob



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austen_fl2 wrote:
To only change fluid you can suck out about 2/3rds of it with a syringe through the fill hole. Obvious problem is you haven't changed filter and not all the fluid.

Only way to really change filter and drain fluid is to remove haldex. Fairly easy, just undo prop and rear support beating from prop so you can drop it, then 4 bolts hold haldex onto diff.

I'd recommend a fluid only change (first option) at 20k intervals, and filter at 40k.


So at the removal/fitting point does that have some sort of paper gasket seal, O ring or just gasket glue like Hylomar you would need to do the job, apart from the workshop of course at my age ? Thanks in anticipation. FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

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RichP



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You can do it on your drive. http://www.freel2.com/forum/topic21722.html?highlight=lucky+girl

My filter was not anywhere near as bad as the one one posted above, but was low on fluid.

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Yorky Bob



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Later models cant be done without removal of the Haldex I believe Big Cry Its a type 4 but type 3 can be done in situ, happy for someone to say otherwise. FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

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Landiroamer



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Browny90 wrote:

I havent looked at the service schedule but i would guess that the oil should at least be check/ topped up on a service?


I wonder if they bother thats the thing and could be why lots of diffs start to fail early? Filled for life oftens means forget it and as for life, well thats until it breaks?

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austen_fl2



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There is a rubber oring between the haldex and diff, its usually reusable, although i always replace it when i change them for the sake of a couple £££. The filter comes with a new casting and the orings etc so thats not an issue.

You cant really drain either a 3 or a 4 fully without removing the haldex, but it is possible to to remove the filter on a haldex 3 without removing the haldex unit as the filter is easier to get to. I wouldnt even attepmt to change the 4 without removing the haldex as the prop is in the way. It may just be possible but not worth the hassle. You also find teh filter is stuck in there so you have to be able to drive a screw into the filter to then knock the filter out, all a pain in the ass with it still fitted in the car.

You can see the filter at 11 oclock on the H4 and 8 oclock on the H3



If you intend to clean out the motor too (there is a gauze on the bottom of the motor) you have to remove the input flange on the haldex.

I am about o update our website, i will write up some guides on changing diffs, haldex units, oils etc when i do it and post some links in here, just dont hold your breath as im extremely busy Wink www.bellengineering.co.uk

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sergio977



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austen_fl2 wrote:
I'd recommend a fluid only change (first option) at 20k intervals, and filter at 40k.


Just one question: why the LR procedure require to extract 70ml of oil and other car brands (with the same Haldex unit) requires to fill the Haldex until oil comes out from the fill hole?

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austen_fl2



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The only thing i can see from the design of the diff (the diff design between manufacturers is different) is that maybe it is to ensure there is enough capacity in the reservoir/system for when the piston is fully retracted and the accumulator is closed. www.bellengineering.co.uk

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sergio977



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thank you!

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MPE600



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Haldex service

Decided it was time to get the Haldex serviced. Car has done 68.000 (07), I have owned it for a year and could find no paperwork relating to Haldex work. After asking local garages if they would service the unit I was left un confident. So decided to go to Bell Engineering, Their service was second to none and very accommodating. It turns out my generation 3 unit has already been swapped for a generation 4. I was shown the filthy filter and the gauze to the pump was covered in gunk! Could have got very expensive if not serviced. I therefore thoroughly recommend the services of Bell Engineering and their expertise. Happy motoring all.

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turboextreme



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Mine was the same all gunked up inside when I serviced mine over a year ago. When I asked the Dealer they said it didn't need doing until 10 yrs or 150,000 miles the same as the Cam belt. Landrover needs to stop over exaggerating the service intervals before it costs there owners a lot of money unless that there Deliberate intention. Whistle

Post #294833 28th Mar 2016 8:31 am
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Yorky Bob



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With all the chatter about the Haldex I am thinking of only at 3 years and 40,000 miles having this done.

What is the indicative cost for a Haldex 4 filter and oil change to include labour? and can anyone recommend a Yorkshire indie for this?

I could crawl under and have a go I guess. FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

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MPE600



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This the servicekit for a Haldex 4. To do the job you need to remove the Haldex from the diff and the oil must be refilled in the correct manner or you will have problems. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Freel...SwFGNWSmso

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Stevie5tapes



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Yorky Bob wrote:
With all the chatter about the Haldex I am thinking of only at 3 years and 40,000 miles having this done.

What is the indicative cost for a Haldex 4 filter and oil change to include labour? and can anyone recommend a Yorkshire indie for this?

I could crawl under and have a go I guess.


Where abouts in Yorkshire are you? I use Parkside garage in Huddersfield. Black MY2013 SD4 GS Auto, Wood Company Armrest, Freel2 sticker.
Gone MY2010 Freelander 2 Manual TD4.e S, Alaska White.

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BossBob



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The price for the service kit looks a bit steep. The oil costs £15.60 a litre from Volvo and a series 3 Haldex filter came in at €39 from haldexparts.com.

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Stevie5tapes



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I had a new haldex pump fitted last year. Just looking at the invoice and it says 2 units of oil at £20 per unit. 40 quid plus vat. Black MY2013 SD4 GS Auto, Wood Company Armrest, Freel2 sticker.
Gone MY2010 Freelander 2 Manual TD4.e S, Alaska White.

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