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Cambo



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Jaguar wheels fit FL2

Yep, they fit.

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These are 20x9 ET49 BBS "Sepang" oem wheels off my XJR, 5x108's, not a problem.

I just happened to have the spare out of the XJR so I thought i'd try it.

I'll be putting on the Evoque 20's though...

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But will be running 245/50R20 rubber to fill out the wheel arches a bit better.

I guess the Jag wheels open up a few more options in wheel choices. 2008 Freelander 2 HSE Si6 Black/Black - Hers
2009 Jaguar XKR 4.2 S/C Portfolio
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LR NUT



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They may well fit but what is the wheel load rating on the jaguar alloy? The Freelander is a much heavier car and will they alloys cope ok hauling a 2 ton trailer load? MY14 Kahn Converted Dynamic - Fuji White Ebony/Pimento Interior
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Cambo



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Good question, but before you call the Jag wheels weak, tell me what's the load rating on the Freelander 2 or Evoque alloy?

I wouldn't call a Freelander "much" heavier mines weighed in at 1990kg with me in it, the XJR weighed in at 1880kg with me in it. That's on weighbridges.

According to the RACQ documents, the X350 XJR is rated as follwing

750kg tow unbraked
1900kg tow braked
75kg ball weight
1810kg Kerb weight
2345kg GVM
4245kg GCM

Same document lists the 3.2 Freelander 2 as

750kg tow unbraked
2000kg tow braked
150kg ball weight (up to 250kg if the extra 100kg is removed from the vehicle)
1820kg Kerb weight
2505kg GVM
4505kg GCM

Link to document here http://www.centaurproducts.com.au/fileadmi...mplete.pdf

So at the most it's an extra 250kg in the GCM of Freelander vs. XJR.

I don't see a problem...

I'd be more worried about crappy aftermarket wheels than the OEM Jag ones made by BBS... 2008 Freelander 2 HSE Si6 Black/Black - Hers
2009 Jaguar XKR 4.2 S/C Portfolio
2005 Jaguar XJR 4.2 S/C Black/Cranberry

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You should be OK. They are designed to run low profile tyres, and you'd use a higher profile tyre for the Freelander. So more give in the wall.

Evoque 20's are a safe bet, but I sold mine as Freelander 2's are extremely common with them now. Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

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Cambo



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I'll be fitting the Evoque wheels to the Freelander, the Jag wheels were more a "wonder what they look like?" thing.

Funny you should say that the Evoque wheels on Freelanders are extremely common, I've never seen one here in Sydney, must be a UK thing... 2008 Freelander 2 HSE Si6 Black/Black - Hers
2009 Jaguar XKR 4.2 S/C Portfolio
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Landiroamer



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Ive seen loads with Evoque wheels them, just to be different ive got FL2 ones on mine Laughing

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Mav71



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Cambo wrote:
I'll be fitting the Evoque wheels to the Freelander, the Jag wheels were more a "wonder what they look like?" thing.

Funny you should say that the Evoque wheels on Freelanders are extremely common, I've never seen one here in Sydney, must be a UK thing...


It was the same here. I first put them on my last FL2 in mid 2012, and it was quite rare. Hence me getting rid now! Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

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Cambo wrote:
Good question, but before you call the Jag wheels weak, tell me what's the load rating on the Freelander 2 or Evoque alloy?

I wouldn't call a Freelander "much" heavier mines weighed in at 1990kg with me in it, the XJR weighed in at 1880kg with me in it. That's on weighbridges.

According to the RACQ documents, the X350 XJR is rated as follwing

750kg tow unbraked
1900kg tow braked
75kg ball weight
1810kg Kerb weight
2345kg GVM
4245kg GCM

Same document lists the 3.2 Freelander 2 as

750kg tow unbraked
2000kg tow braked
150kg ball weight (up to 250kg if the extra 100kg is removed from the vehicle)
1820kg Kerb weight
2505kg GVM
4505kg GCM

Link to document here http://www.centaurproducts.com.au/fileadmi...mplete.pdf

So at the most it's an extra 250kg in the GCM of Freelander vs. XJR.

I don't see a problem...

I'd be more worried about crappy aftermarket wheels than the OEM Jag ones made by BBS...


Sure, just make sure that the FL2 has all 4 wheels on the ground at all times. When one wheel lifts off the ground, the other 3 have to take the weight. Sometimes even 2 of them have to take the weight for a time. That is why there is a load rating...

example below:
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Cambo



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Cool photo, so what's the load rating of an original wheel then? 2008 Freelander 2 HSE Si6 Black/Black - Hers
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2005 Jaguar XJR 4.2 S/C Black/Cranberry

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douglash



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As per here.

http://www.freel2.com/forum/post59632.html My Ride: Clickety-click

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Cambo



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That thread only talks about the tyre load rating, not the wheel load rating.

Yes obviously the tyre load rating needs to match or better the factory specs. The 255/35R20 on the Jag, apart from the profile being too low, is also a 97 rated tyre. The FL2 would need a 105 minimum, that's clear.

But it was suggested that the load rating of the Jag wheel wouldn't be enough, which I don't agree with.

I know that the OEM Land Rover wheels are well engineered (probably over engineered) which is why I bought the OEM Evoque alloys. But for someone to claim a load rating of the wheel that needs to be met, then they need to put a number on it.

There is no load rating marked on the Evoque wheels.

And as for the notion of all the vehicle weight being on two wheels while off-roading, that's a consideration for the tyres more than the wheels.

A wheel get's exposed to some massive loads/forces, for example a pothole at 40mph, guarantee you that the load on the wheel at that moment is a lot higher than putting a vehicle on two wheels. 2008 Freelander 2 HSE Si6 Black/Black - Hers
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douglash



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Ok. Sure. Then my last suggestion is make sure your insurance is ok with it. Would be terrible if they decided not to cover anything for any reason... My Ride: Clickety-click

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There is a load rating on my Freelander wheels, max load 680 kg. I am sure there is on on my Evoque wheels, but without getting a mirror on a stick and probing around outside I can't remember what it is. As I have just finished nights it'll have to wait.

Gav.

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Cambo



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I had a look at the factory 18" wheels on our FL2, there is no load rating on them, which wheels do you have that are marked 680kg?

So far i've checked

FL2 18's - no marking
Evoque 20's - no marking
Jag BBS 20's - no marking
Jag BBS 18's - no marking

In any case 680kg doesn't seem like much, I found some info regarding Disco/RRS wheels having a rating of 940kg in 17, 18 & 19 and the 20's are 858kg http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/157207...heels.html

Obviously the bigger LR's are heavier and with a 3.5T towing capacity they would need it too. 2008 Freelander 2 HSE Si6 Black/Black - Hers
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Cambo



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Anyway, I put the Evoque's on today, terrible photo's but it's too hot to be outside taking pictures.

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Hankook 255/50R20's, 104 load rating

The online tyre size calculators said these would be about 1" in diameter bigger than the stock 235/60R18's and yeah that's about right, That's means it's only sitting a 1/2" higher than before but the height is somehow quite noticeable from behind the wheel.

The offset of the 20's being 10mm less than the 18's compensates for the wider rubber, same 1-fingers-width clearance to the struts on the inside.

And they buldge off the rim by about an inch so I hope that'll keep the gutter rash at bay.

Looks alright I reckon. 2008 Freelander 2 HSE Si6 Black/Black - Hers
2009 Jaguar XKR 4.2 S/C Portfolio
2005 Jaguar XJR 4.2 S/C Black/Cranberry

2005 Jaguar X-Type 3.0L AWD - Gone

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