As announced in the budget today the first MOT on a car or motorcycle is going to be extended from 3 to 4 years. That's the first part of their master plan to switch to the 4-2-2 system they've been banging on about for years. Next step is to make MOT's bi-annual. You wait and see. VOSA is against it as they say there will be more dangerous vehicles on the road and I agree. What about you?

Gut reaction is a resounding "no". I wonder if they would make it more stringent if it was bi-annual?

Also a flat rate road of £140 in 2017. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

What is a flat rate of road? (Past) Freelander 2 HSE 2010 MY In Rimini Red.
(Past) RR Evoque Dynamic Lux Si4 In Firenze Red.
(Past) RR Evouque Pure Tech in Barollo Black with bespoke Firenze Red colour coding.
(Present) Freelander Metropolis 2015 MY In Santorini Black with Ivory Premium Leather.

j77 wrote:

Also a flat rate road [tax] of £140 in 2017.

This is a bit confusing,are we mixing up VED and MOT? I understand that from 2017, three new VED bands will be introduced for new cars. While the cost of road tax will be set according to emissions, as today, the bands will be updated in line with new technology. It won't affect cars currently on the road.

‘There will be three duty bands: zero emission, standard and premium,’ said Osborne. ‘For standard cars – that covers 95% of all cars sold in the UK – the charge will be £140 a year.

Expect a huge surge in sales of small cars in early 2017. Is the MOT thing for real or just a suggestion? 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

The Valeter wrote:

What is a flat rate of road?

Sorry typo should have tax there.

I'm aware that it doesn't include current cars.

Zero emissions, free

1-255 g/km, £140

Cars over £40k pay a £310 supplement for 5 years.

The MOT is for real 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

Four years to the first MOT is too long I feel, now folk cant walk 100yds without going in the car, the mileages are a lot more than they used to be, my neighbour even takes the dog for a walk in the car.

My company car would have done 130000 in four years, and with service intervals increasing too, some now 20000 and no doubt it they will get more than that between services, it could be quite some time before items get looked at.

It will need some high profile government nob to have his family mowed down by a 3 1/2 year old car with a fault that could have been picked up at a 3 yearly MOT to get them to think again.

j77 wrote:

The Valeter wrote:

What is a flat rate of road?

Sorry typo should have tax there.

I'm aware that it doesn't include current cars.

Zero emissions, free

1-255 g/km, £140

Cars over £40k pay a £310 supplement for 5 years.

The MOT is for real

Who on earth is asking the govt for a first Mot at 4-years, and bi-annually thereafter? Certainly not the garage owners.

Does the govt hope to save money or something?

Is this the same perverted logic that saw the end of tax discs?

Well I know it's certainly not VOSA who monitor the MOT system. We were warned on seminars that the govt. were pushing for 4-2-2 and we were told to ensure that when we carry out first tests on vehicles to make sure that any failed item was recorded. In other words, dont just replace that stop bulb, adjust that headlamp, top up the windscreen washers, fit the spare wheel, replace that wiper blade or correct any other failed testable item WITHOUT RECORDING IT so that the govt. gets a true picture of the percentage of vehicles that fail to reach minimum standards after 3 years. Obviously the govt took no notice of the data.

tim_roberts wrote:

Who on earth is asking the govt for a first Mot at 4-years, and bi-annually thereafter? Certainly not the garage owners.