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Chuckalicious Member Since: 23 May 2014 Location: Midlothian Posts: 1796 |
Service dept called back. Happy to test drive it and see how it feels. If they warrant it needing more investigation it would require removal which apparently takes 6 hours of labour for removal and refit.
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8th Jun 2015 3:16 pm |
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Chuckalicious Member Since: 23 May 2014 Location: Midlothian Posts: 1796 |
Was out with an LR tech this morning so he could test drive my car. He agreed the clutch was very heavy and handy felt one like it before, bit felt that the clutch itself felt ok in terms of driving. As there was no judder or clutch slip he said if it was his car he would leave it until it showed other symptoms which would help with a warranty claim. Because it is only a slight issue just now the cost in labour alone to investigate would not be worth it.
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12th Jun 2015 11:20 am |
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Past master Member Since: 30 Jun 2010 Location: Isle of Ely Posts: 2710 |
As I recall the engine management is linked to the clutch and adjusts the revs during gear changes. Thus making double declutching pointless. Some time since I bought the manual MY07, but I'm sure I read that somewhere. Might it be relevant? Ex AA Series III LWB Safari - Gone
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13th Jun 2015 9:19 pm |
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Chuckalicious Member Since: 23 May 2014 Location: Midlothian Posts: 1796 |
No idea! I know sweet fa about this kind of thing! FL2 TD4 GS 60 reg Facelift - so many issues
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13th Jun 2015 9:31 pm |
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littletriple Member Since: 27 Mar 2014 Location: kent Posts: 226 |
Really? Hard to see how that would work. I haven't noticed anything of the like on mine. Engine speed seems to follow the throttle irrespective of any clutch action. I also tend to ddc when its cold as the changes seem easier. |
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17th Jun 2015 1:02 pm |
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littletriple Member Since: 27 Mar 2014 Location: kent Posts: 226 |
Really? Hard to see how that would work. I haven't noticed anything of the like on mine. Engine speed seems to follow the throttle irrespective of any clutch action. I also tend to ddc when its cold as the changes seem easier. |
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17th Jun 2015 1:02 pm |
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Past master Member Since: 30 Jun 2010 Location: Isle of Ely Posts: 2710 |
Hmmm. I can't find any reference to this but I would not have made it up (Land Rovers do not normally figure in my dreams). It may well be that the recollection is confused and I'm referring to something else entirely. I do remember that my initial reaction was similar to yours, which is why I remember reading it! Perhaps I've just got it wrong.
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17th Jun 2015 4:10 pm |
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Past master Member Since: 30 Jun 2010 Location: Isle of Ely Posts: 2710 |
OK, it's known as surge damping. I can only find a reference to the TD5 but suspect that it's the same on our machine. See the last page of this article: http://www.thong.dk/laro/Kobling_Land_Rover.pdf
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17th Jun 2015 4:47 pm |
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littletriple Member Since: 27 Mar 2014 Location: kent Posts: 226 |
Hmmm, sounds like a gimmick for the incompetent. So if you leave your foot on the floor while changing up the system will cut the revs for the next ratio? Could be useful if you are eating your breakfast cereal while driving I suppose...
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17th Jun 2015 8:19 pm |
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Mikey Member Since: 07 Jun 2008 Location: Dundee Posts: 785 |
It was needed in the TD5, as the engine revs would "stick" high for a second when changing gear. The pressure sensor cut the revs when it saw the throttle angle decrease, to make gear changes smoother |
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17th Jun 2015 8:30 pm |
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littletriple Member Since: 27 Mar 2014 Location: kent Posts: 226 |
But why? Too much hysteresis in the throttle system? Do FL2s have it? |
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17th Jun 2015 8:41 pm |
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Past master Member Since: 30 Jun 2010 Location: Isle of Ely Posts: 2710 |
I suspect that they do,- I used to have a TD5, but it was an auto, so this information would have been irrelevant. My first FL2 was a manual version, and my memory is of reading this information on acquiring that car. Can't see it in the owner's handbook though, so I don't know where it came from! Ex AA Series III LWB Safari - Gone
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18th Jun 2015 3:27 pm |
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Chuckalicious Member Since: 23 May 2014 Location: Midlothian Posts: 1796 |
Thanks for the suggestions. Certainly the stiff clutch pedal has been "felt" by enough people for it not to be my seating position. I have altered my seat though which has helped with other things.
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21st Jun 2015 2:09 pm |
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Chuckalicious Member Since: 23 May 2014 Location: Midlothian Posts: 1796 |
Thanks for the explanation. I actually already do that, maybe not perfectly but I rarely lift off the gas when changing. FL2 TD4 GS 60 reg Facelift - so many issues
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22nd Jun 2015 10:41 am |
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