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LR NUT



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LR NUT



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Not a personal dig....

I've posted a comparison on this thread...

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None offence taken Thumbs Up

I've also commented on the numerous threads that are popping up about the DS, everything DS should be mentioned here to keep the forum uncluttered. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

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Lightwater wrote:
Tata apparently will build its own LR DS. Tata DS will not be keeping any of the LR style to keep cost down for an India only market.



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The village I live in is pretty much Land Rover's target market-mostly wealthy professionals who want a vehicle that reflects that. In terms of car ownership, and 4x4's in particular, there are two FL2's (including mine), one Evoque, 2 of the new Range Rovers and about 7 Audi/BMW's. Of the Audi/BMW owners, one is coming up to changing and seriously considering the Discovery Sport. All of the Land Rover owners have had more than one before and appear to be loyal to the brand. The one considering changing to the Discovery Sport has never had a Land Rover before. I appreciate it's not a particularly representative survey of Audi/BMW owners, but if 10-20% switch, the Discovery Sport is going to be a huge success. It may not be quite my thing (although I do think it is a nice looking car), like the Evoque, it is doing the job it was designed to do-introduce a different demographic to the brand.

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gravon 42 wrote:
Lightwater wrote:
Tata apparently will build its own LR DS. Tata DS will not be keeping any of the LR style to keep cost down for an India only market.

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& extra large side steeps for even more!


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Labradorslave wrote:
The village I live in is pretty much Land Rover's target market-mostly wealthy professionals who want a vehicle that reflects that. In terms of car ownership, and 4x4's in particular, there are two FL2's (including mine), one Evoque, 2 of the new Range Rovers and about 7 Audi/BMW's. Of the Audi/BMW owners, one is coming up to changing and seriously considering the Discovery Sport. All of the Land Rover owners have had more than one before and appear to be loyal to the brand. The one considering changing to the Discovery Sport has never had a Land Rover before. I appreciate it's not a particularly representative survey of Audi/BMW owners, but if 10-20% switch, the Discovery Sport is going to be a huge success. It may not be quite my thing (although I do think it is a nice looking car), like the Evoque, it is doing the job it was designed to do-introduce a different demographic to the brand.

There are a lot of D4 & RR in my area but not too many Freelanders. Lots of X3 & Q5 etc. The DS will be ideal for the 'Upper Middle Bogan' (ABC TV series) who can't afford a RR & would not want to be caught dead in a lower bogan Freelander!

The first few frames is the typical car LR is aiming to have replaced with a DS. A few of these targeted vehicles live in my street.
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I tested drove the auto hse lux on the weekend.

Very nice car and suprised me. I didn't want to like it but I did.
If I could afford it, I would have bought the se tech in a heartbeat.

Engine seems a lot quieter, suspension feels more taught and wind noise is reduced.

With rear seats dropped flat boot is no smaller just the shape is not as square.

Interior is nicely brought up to date without trying to turn it into a space ship.

All in all like I said I would buy it in a couple of years time.

All the doubters and haters go and test drive/view one you may be suprised (i was).

At the event I attended nobody could confirm, if or when the new engine would go in to the sport!

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It is quite amusing reading how many on this thread are berating the DS for the engine, the very same engine they currently have in their beloved Fl2's. On top of this up so full of praise for the igneium engine which no body has even heard or driven as yet.... Laughing 2010MY Freelander 2 HSE Auto
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gingerlord wrote:
Saw a DS last night at Chievely services with an AA van next to it and an awful lot of steam/smoke coming out under the bonnet Shocked


Probably the new ingenium engine on test..... 2010MY Freelander 2 HSE Auto
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Not with an AA van it won't, I am sure LR will have their own techs on site pretty darn quick if it was an ingenium equipped car. Whistle

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Call from LR

I had a surprising follow-up call from LR yesterday, after my fairly recent DS test drives. It became apparent that they had read my feedback written at the end of the event. Call lasted about 10 mins, with LR rep taking detailed notes of why for me the DS feel short of my needs & expectations. Confused

I also took the opportunity to share our most recent Freel2.com DS poll results. Razz

The conversation was entirely cordial, and she DID seem to understand my concerns & huge disappointment right now. She has requested that relevant LR folk respond to my comments directly. So that's good if they do, and yes of course I will then share them here too. Rolling Eyes Life is not a dress rehearsal!

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Saw one today for the 1st time as I took my FL2 for its 1st service to Guy Salmon at their new dealership in Stockport , its a drive straight in venue so you get out at the reception area .
I must admit the DS looked better in the flesh than when viewing pics , it was placed next to an Evoke and although I could see it was similar the DS was better looking in my opinion .
The main thing I was interested in was the seating position , yes its lost the FL2 command position but not by a great deal , rear sets were roomy .
I waited whilst they serviced the FL2 and it felt reassuring when I got back into the driving seat , will see whats about when this is 3 yrs old .

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It is quite amusing reading how many on this thread are berating the DS for the engine, the very same engine they currently have in their beloved Fl2's. On top of this up so full of praise for the igneium engine which no body has even heard or driven as yet.... Laughing


12 years ago I ran a VAG 1.9 TDI for 185K miles without issue. For its time it was smooth and powerful while returning a true 58mpg, great engine. Would I go out and purchase a Q5 new with that same engine....not a chance! The FL2's 2.2 has been used for 9 years now and while good was never class lead. Now for a 'premium' model I expect something much more refined, efficient and cleaner for my money. It doesn't make it a bad vehicle because of the engine but does stop me from parting with my money.

The fact that the new engine did not make it for launch suggest there have been issues and it could turn out that when it does arrive it may have been rushed and teething problems occurs for the early adopters, which might help the case for those claiming 'it's better the devil you know'.... as for me, I find it unacceptable for a vehicle of this price range and will wait to see how the new engine performs before making a decision.

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