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taztastic



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Crime pays ...

A few months ago, 8am one morning, a van drove onto our courtyard, the two occupants then proceeded to nick a Karcher pressure washer from the unit opposite, the owner came out and gave chase, he pulled open their van door and lots of rubbish fell out. From this litter the police obtained DNA and caught the burglar.
In the meantime, the owners insurance company refused to pay out as the burglar had been caught and the courts would deal with it.
Yesterday he was up in court, I am not sure of any sentence but the owner of the pressure washer, which was worth £2,500 and was never recovered, has been given £100 in compensation to be paid by the burglar, how the hell does that work?

As you can imagine he's not very happy, insurance company have refused to pay out and he's left £2500 out of pocket.

Post #249190 17th Jan 2015 4:03 pm
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iain cooper



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I would say the insurance company should cough up as the item was never recovered ?

perhaps the Doctor will come along and throw some legal aspect into the situation.

Iain

ps crime does pay btw

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The Doctor



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Firstly, I didn't choose sentencing as an option when studying and that would no doubt have taught me more about how compensation is awarded by the courts. However, I have seen compensation awarded through my line of work and can say it is limited to smaller sums rather than the exact amount lost.

Personally, I don't buy the insurance company's get out excuse. If they are correct and can refuse the payout, then they must have an express term within the policy that states as such.

People have home insurance and they do pay out for valid claims when someone has been burgled, irrespective of whether or not the burglar has been caught and sentenced. Indeed, people who are victims of an assault can put a claim in to the CICA and they will receive a payout in due course. The payout will be reduced by whatever amount has already been awarded by the court in compensation (if any).

In short, have a word with the owner and ask him to check the policy documentation. It really is worth checking as there is a chance to fightback against the insurance company. LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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The Doctor



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https://www.victimsupport.org.uk/help-vict...mpensation LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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Post #249204 17th Jan 2015 5:43 pm
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shiggsy



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"If the court decides to order the offender to pay you compensation, it will be limited to what the offender can afford "

Ahhh....well that's nice.
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The Doctor



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^ With you on the rant but on the other hand, what would be the point in telling the offender to pay up for something you know full well he or she will never be able to afford.

I have often suggested that for every £1 they can't afford, they can have an extra day in prison Very Happy LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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shiggsy



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Tag them until they have paid their debts. 
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