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RichP



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Sorry if this is a stupid question, but does anyone think that wheel diameter makes a difference? I am going to get a set of winter wheels and tyres so would like to know if anyone has found a difference in performance in winter with different diameter tyres, otherwise I will probably go for a cheeper set which I presume would be 17"? Any other advice would be appreciated. Cheers Thumbs Up

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A 17" inch Veredestein would offer no difference in perfarmance to 19" just the smaller sizes are easier in the wallet and perhaps to smaller sizes with a larger side profile would lessen the chance of a damaged rim.

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Now there's a thought, why would 17" tyres be cheaper than 19"?

They are similar width, and the 17" have taller sidewalls so more rubber.

The first set of mud tyres are on there last legs with 4mm tread left, so Winters on 18" rims going on in November, then fit the spare set of mud tyres to the 17" rims, and all set for the coming summer Smile

What am I going to do when this set of Goodyear MTRs wear out?
Already priming Gill for a touring holiday in Croatia, where I believe they are still available - seriously. I miss the gentle rumble of proper tyres all winter when the MTRs are calling to me from the garage. Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
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Wait until the rabbit's coats start turning white; that's nature's sign snow's on the way!

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LR NUT wrote:
Winters on a Land Rover Rolling with laughter

If you've ever tried winter rubber, you'll know there's a significant difference in traction under all conditions; stopping, starting, & turning!

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RichP wrote:
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but does anyone think that wheel diameter makes a difference?
Yes, you want a taller sidewall to minimize impact transfer to suspension components when you slide into a curb, and to get better footprint compliance on irregular surfaces when cold ambient temperatures make the rubber stiff.

You also want a narrower treadwidth to help the tire bite down through the snow.

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Thanks G C.

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And, right on the dot, LR have sent me an e-mail suggesting I fit winter tyres. they are suggesting Goodyear Ultragrips or Conti Cross Contacts. And they will be happy to supply them for around £1000 a set! Rolling with laughter
Edit: Their e-mail also contains a link to their "Winter driving website", which comes up as "non-existent domain". Sigh. Ex AA Series III LWB Safari - Gone
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Gents we've never had the need to run winters on our LR's and that is going back before I was born Thumbs Up I therefore cannot comment on the difference!

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As per other posts-4 General Grabber AT's fitted last week. Mainly needed for Forestry Commission tacks whilst officiating on Car rally's, but also good if it snows.

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Same every year, the ones that say they are not needed have never tried them Thud

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I just finished mounting my new winters, 225/75-16 Hankook iPikes. There's snow in the forecast but I haven't even rolled 'em out of the garage yet. The difference between these & all-season or M&S is in several areas:
- softer compound
- deeper tread (over 1/2")
- sipes to allow water to evacuate & the tread-blocks to conform better

They're also studdable but studs generally inhibit grip in more conditions than they help.

I've run winters for over 20 years on FWD & RWD cars with great results; can't wait to see what the LR2 can do with 'em!



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ad210358 wrote:
Same every year, the ones that say they are not needed have never tried them Thud
My RWD C-Class Mercedes is essentially undriveable in the winter with summer tires. The winter tires make ALL the difference. I've actually been able to tow an AWD Audi out of the ditch with my little MB wearing winter boots! Laughing

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I have never tried winter tyres. I currently have a set of Kumho KL78s (with 4mm tread) fitted and I'd be interested in any opinion on how they will perform if it (1) gets v cold or (2) snows.

My driving style in adverse conditions (snow, ice etc) is cautious. ...

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As above, I think 4mm is pretty minimal for winter. I'd be inclined if it were me to get a spare set of wheels and some winter tyres, then put the Kumhos back on for one final summer. Mind you it never snows in Wales does it? Ex AA Series III LWB Safari - Gone
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New model ex-demo Evoque S 180 in white
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