Looks likely that government sanctions will be applied against diesels in the future. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/...ion-battle
Also on the front page of the Times, I see. Ex AA Series III LWB Safari - Gone
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FR2 SD4 HSE - Now changed for a DS
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Hadley surprising.... the same will happen when the majority use electric cars.

T Terran



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If more than a handful start moving to electric cars the government will start to realise that the electricity infrastrusture can't cope with the increase in demand, and they'll start upping the taxes on electricity too! Energy supply policy is a complete mess on all levels, and the only tangible result is ever increasing taxes.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/j...astructure

Just read the article, & to be fair, its more aimed at London, for now anyway!
My wife just took delivery of an electric car yesterday, & potentially she, by that I mean I will save a fortune in fuel costs alone!
The future will be electric / hybrid vehicles whether we like it or not!

It will indeed, but not, of course, in the cities where they are most needed, since no-one has a garage or drive to park them while charging! Ex AA Series III LWB Safari - Gone
300TDi Disco (bought new - terrible car) sent back after 18 months
Freelander 1 Estate - leased, given back at end of lease
200TDi Disco (bought from a mate with 100,000 on the clock) - Gone
Disco 2 TD5 - sold and exported to France
FR2 TD4 GS - Gone
FR2 SD4 HSE - Now changed for a DS
New model ex-demo Evoque S 180 in white
Unable to order a new DS, so gave up. Now have a Volvo S90 Recharge.

The rationale for electric vehicles is principally an ecological one. But surely all you're doing is shifting the polluting element up the chain to the (typically coal fired) power stations who belch out smoke & CO2 etc... You've gotta generate the leccy in the first place...

And, yes, as soon as a recommended technology takes hold, the cost is ratcheted up to make up for lost taxes etc. grrrr
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Wait until the battery has to be replaced and the cost involved. Ex 2010 Freelander2 GS-e Diesel manual Silver owner

Not only is the pollution moved upstream to the power station, battery manufacture is not the greenest of processes. Then there is the scarcity of some of the minerals used in both the batteries and the control electronics.
Another problem with batteries is the t8me taken to recharge them and the care that is needed to keep them in good condition.
If you want electric power the way to go is the hydrogen fuel cell.

Was in the Services at Beoconsfield today, the call of a Gregg's Bacon roll and a Tea was to much, was shocked to see some actually using the charging point, Dutch registered though.

This was on TV news as well, where they too failed to mention that most diesels don't have a DPF.

On the other hand, who wouldn't like a Tesla S? 2020 Defender D200 110S Pangea Green
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Gone: 2012 FL2, TD4 GS Manual, Santorini Black

I always wondered on the government / manufacturers stance for pushing diesels. I've had my last two petrol cars converted to run on LPG, yep even my 1.8 FL1, the saving is great, stops between fill ups can be extended (if you want to use the petrol as well) and there are more LPG stations than you think. I'm gob smacked why more manufacturers aren't making dual fuel cars. Shame there isn't a petrol FL2 anymore, I would have bought one!

Aren't there still strange regulations about dual-fuel when going abroad? As far as I'm aware you can't take the cars across on the Tunnel. Ex AA Series III LWB Safari - Gone
300TDi Disco (bought new - terrible car) sent back after 18 months
Freelander 1 Estate - leased, given back at end of lease
200TDi Disco (bought from a mate with 100,000 on the clock) - Gone
Disco 2 TD5 - sold and exported to France
FR2 TD4 GS - Gone
FR2 SD4 HSE - Now changed for a DS
New model ex-demo Evoque S 180 in white
Unable to order a new DS, so gave up. Now have a Volvo S90 Recharge.

LPG cars are banned, to do with no official standards of fitment iirc.

Past master wrote:

Aren't there still strange regulations about dual-fuel when going abroad? As far as I'm aware you can't take the cars across on the Tunnel.

Banned from the tunnel but OK on the ferries. I do know of one or two people who have taken dual fuel cars through the tunnel after sticking a "GB" plate over the fuelling point for LPG. John
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