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fredastaire



Member Since: 03 Dec 2012
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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Auto Santorini Black
Which Trolley Jack should I buy

I have struggled with my Trolley Jack because of insufficient lift, a particular problem with jacking the rear of the Freelie where a high lift is needed.
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Have any Forum Members recently bought a trolley jack that the are happy with and would recommend? if so what make, model and supplier?
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Equally what make / model should be avoided because of strength or reliability or build problems.
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Your comments would be appreciated.
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Kind regards from Fred.
. 2010GS Auto ex Celeb, Santorini Black, 2011 facelift , spoiler, spats, mudflaps, LED footwell lamps, Witter detach,
Other cars:-
1958 & 1959 Austin J40 Pedal Cars under restoration (I make many J40 parts)
If you have an Austin J40 or Pathfinder Pedal Car looking for a new home pls PM me.
2009 Meriva

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Paul1966



Member Since: 21 Dec 2013
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I bought this one when I had my old D2 and it's been very good no problems and I've had it about 18 months now.
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/...rolley-jac

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MidlandRover



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http://www.sgs-engineering.com/hydraulic-jacks/trolley-jacks
The above get a good report on the D3 forum for the 3 ton one and are local too
The other recommended one is the Machine Mart 3000 series but not the quick lift as that has a tendency to twist under very heavy loads.

Ps did you get my pm regarding the rubber mats you had for sale?. FL2 SD4 Metropolis Auto Santorini Black / ivory completely stock.

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freedieselauto



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Auto Rimini Red

I have the SGS 3 ton heavy duty jack. It gives a good height of lift and is has a low profile when down. It has done good service over the past 12 months even lifting my boat and helping to lift a tree root. However, it does ease itself down fairly quickly, so permanent supports (axle stands) need to be inserted ASAP. I should probably take this up with SGS but it reminds me not to rely on the jack alone ! - 2007(57) XS Auto, Rimini Red, Alpaca Leather.
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pab



Member Since: 28 Aug 2012
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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Lago Grey

I have the Clarke 3 tonne Professional Garage Jack (NOT quick lift) from Machine Mart.
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/...l-garage-j

Excellent jack - no complaints at all (except that it's heavy, but that's not a bad thing since it simply reflects the fact that it's very strong and well built).

Unless you spend your life jacking cars quick lift seems completely unnecessary - it only takes a few strokes to have a non-quick-lift at operating height.

Post #224567 12th May 2014 9:40 am
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ad210358



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Another one for the SGS 3 Ton one, makes short work of lifting the D4, cannot fault the product or the company. Only just down the road from you Fred, sure they would not object to you popping in.

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Paul1966



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England 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Auto Izmir Blue

I've just been and checked mine and it's the 3 ton version not 2 ton although the 2 ton is easily enough for a fl2 I agree the quick lift might not be needed on a fl2 but I bought mine when I had a D2 so I used it all the time and still do on many other D2s.with regards to them twisting I've never had a problem with mine.

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BossBob



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My old trolly jack couldn't get high enough to get the wheels off the floor so I went for the 3 tonne quick lift from Machine Mart based on the maximum lift height.

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MidlandRover



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Not wishing to denagrade the MM quick lift as I've never had one just going by comments and photos on the D3 forum.
The most popular on there was the MM CTJ3000G as there was an adaptor available to fit the Disco jacking points.
Still like the sgs one though. FL2 SD4 Metropolis Auto Santorini Black / ivory completely stock.

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ad210358



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The adapter fits the SGS one Wink

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Bill Turner



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Paul1966 wrote:
I bought this one when I had my old D2 and it's been very good no problems and I've had it about 18 months now.
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/...rolley-jac


A good buy but the 3 tonne high lift version is much better as it is made for the higher lifts required for FL2's and Disco's. From experience the 2 tonne struggles if the car is loaded and is not as stable on rough ground as I found out when I punctured on a rally and lost a lot of time.
I was fortunate to be able to sell it on at very little loss and then get the 3 tonne which has been tested in the same scenario and performed correctly.

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/...-trolley-j

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outofyorkshire



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pab wrote:
I have the Clarke 3 tonne Professional Garage Jack (NOT quick lift) from Machine Mart.
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/...l-garage-j

Excellent jack - no complaints at all (except that it's heavy, but that's not a bad thing since it simply reflects the fact that it's very strong and well built).

Unless you spend your life jacking cars quick lift seems completely unnecessary - it only takes a few strokes to have a non-quick-lift at operating height.


+1 used it on both my discos & now the FL2....good solid piece of kit will lift the full back or front end no problems at all Thumbs Up Cheers Ian
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fredastaire



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Auto Santorini Black
The Trolley Jack to buy

Gentlemen, thank you all for your help in steering me towards a purchase.
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And now for the interesting bit.
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I went first to see Machine Mart to look at their 3 tonne professional CTJ3000G which costs £101.99 inc vat
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Then I went to SGS Derby and bought their 3 tonne professional jack for £79.98 inc vat
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GUESS WHAT!!!!!
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ITS THE SAME JACK Machine mart is red with white handle and lifting cup, whereas the SGS is all-over black and £22.00 cheaper.
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Even more surprising is that you can go on ebay and buy the machine mart one from several sellers at a price of £121 - £141 ........Wow
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I am aware that several of you are also on the Defender allied forum, please can you add these notes on there to help somebody else.
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Kind regards from Fred
. 2010GS Auto ex Celeb, Santorini Black, 2011 facelift , spoiler, spats, mudflaps, LED footwell lamps, Witter detach,
Other cars:-
1958 & 1959 Austin J40 Pedal Cars under restoration (I make many J40 parts)
If you have an Austin J40 or Pathfinder Pedal Car looking for a new home pls PM me.
2009 Meriva

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pab



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Lago Grey

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ITS THE SAME JACK Machine mart is red with white handle and lifting cup, whereas the SGS is all-over black and £22.00 cheaper.

I compared the two a while ago and while they look very similar they're not actually the same - there are differences in the mechanism and the dimensions, min height, etc, are slightly different. (Of course things may have changed since I compared them, but I note their specs on their respective websites still differ a bit so probably not.)

That said I dare say the SGS is a perfectly decent jack at a good price.

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fredastaire



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Auto Santorini Black

Thanks Pab,
So is one a clone of the other, if so what was the first cloned from...........
I owned a Zafira a coulpe of years ago and have Opcom on my laptop, mine was a Chinese clone of the Hungarian Clone of Vauxhall. I used to sell a handbook on ebay that I hade composed, then Opcom Hungary clone company stopped me - sort of cheecky?

I'll go next week when I am back in Machine mart and have another look to see how similar they are.
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Kind regards from Fred.
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