^^ Agreed.

I see your point about generating publicity but I don't believe he's so much of a bellend that it's 100% his raison d'etre. I don't think anyone really wants to be known as a racist (unless they are, of course)..

Well said Badger totally agree. FL2 SD4 Metropolis Auto Santorini Black / ivory completely stock.

It's true that light travels faster than sound, some people look quite intelligent until you hear them speak.


Stop global winging.

Seems to be that it is absolutely fine to be a racist as long as you keep quiet about it

But

You can be totally NOT a racist and a bit careless or foolish and you are the devil incarnate and likely to be prosecuted

JC is not a racist, just a very clever presenter who knows how to manipulate the media and the public to maximise his personal wealth.

Iain

People seem to be just waiting for an excuse just to have a pop at someone, just to sensitive, I doubt if we will ever see a factual remake of The Dambusters either.

^^

Or various Enid Blyton stories for that matter.... Foraging near Gaydon....
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Quite. Or Billy Bunter. Or Biggles. All racist.

Apparently it's even racist to call your dog Didier Dogba (Clarkson yet again).

The loonies are everywhere, and the problem is they're winning.

Badger1970 wrote:

Personally, I find the "R" word that is levied on a daily basis in the media most offensive! But then I am white, so my opinion doesn't matter does it? It's the most overused word in the English language (inappropriately in the majority of cases), yet the PC Left and the bleeding heart "Yuman Rites" mob, along with other ethnic minorities are able to slur someone who just happens to be white with total impunity when something doesn't quite fall their way, or there's a few quid to be made out of it.

What these aforementioned bloody fools don't realise is that their attitudes are creating division between communities, as they seem to view colour/religion above anything else! About time they grew a pair, and stopped being "offended" at every opportunity.

Perhaps you are not aware of the numerous racial crimes that have gone to court where the perpetrator and the victim have been white but of different nationality ie Scottish, Irish ,Welsh or English. I am not a bleeding heart PC lefty or Human Rights activist but I do believe that we all deserve a bit of respect and should consider carefully what we say lest we offend.

Not too hard to do I would suggest.

ad210358 wrote:

People seem to be just waiting for an excuse just to have a pop at someone, just to sensitive, I doubt if we will ever see a factual remake of The Dambusters either.

I never knew that, I had to google a few words to find what you meant. Nice one

DonDon wrote:

... I do believe that we all deserve a bit of respect and should consider carefully what we say lest we offend.

your all feckers the lot of you, stop discussing a furore over a man reading a nursery rhyme, At work
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I'm going to complain that it is not PC for CG to call us 'vaners' or 'vanners'

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

Well, perhaps not literally to the death...

In my view, if Clarkson held / holds racist views, he wouldn't have shirked from using the n-word out loud, knowing that he could re-edit and start again. As it was, he mumbled the middle verse to the point where, unless you already KNEW the verse, you'd NEVER be able to make out the bloody word. As James May said, Clarkson might be reasonably criticised as 'a bellend' but he doesn't strike me as malicious.
I believe it's the intent that counts. I don't think any racist intent was there. It's an old, well-known verse and, yes, times have moved on, and we no longer call each other n****r, p**i, y*d, d**o etc etc but you can't uninvent things and, in the context of the footage ("which car should I choose... eeny meeny miny mo...etc") I think that use of the rhyme is acceptable, to skirt/hide/mumble to the point of incoherence a word we now deem offensive is acceptable. To read it outright and loud would have been a big error. Which he didn't make.
As it stands now, I think that the PC brigade, having won many reasonable victories, is on the bloody warpath, aided by self-righteous pri**s in the press, who no doubt use much more offensive lingo when not in the public gaze.
Clarkson's apology was not an apology for using a word but an appeal for more reasonableness in the debate over offense drawn. Some people need to get a grip and stop wasting their lives looking for ways to be offended.
He KNEW that he couldn't use the n-word so he didn't. I challenge anyone who doesn't know the verse to tell me just what he mumbled. Might as well hang me for whistling 'Old Dixie' since it's a favourite of the South.
It's also interesting that, in the papers where they conduct an online poll "Should Clarkson be sacked?" there's a healthy majority voting NO, even in the soddin' Guardian! ...

Be true to yourself. That way happiness lies...

EYorkshire wrote:

I'm going to complain that it is not PC for CG to call us 'vaners' or 'vanners'

Oh am I mistaken? Is tw$ts preferable? At work
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