Hi Nickhuts
If you add 2-T oil to older diesel engines it will take some time until the soot and oil deposits are completely soaked and burned away.
So I advise that you add 2 or 3 times one full litre of 2-T oil to your fuel-tank to speed-up the cleaning of your engine components. Therafter you should indeed notice the effects of 2-T oil.
With regard to engine noise the PD engines of VW, Audi and Scoda are noisy due to its construction and operation principles, so noise reduction after adding 2-T oil may be difficult to notice. However, every other benefit remains.

YF

I've added a Poll asking members if, following this fascinating discussion, they've decided to start adding 2-T oil. And whether it works. I'm sure that we'll all be interested in your feedback. Thanks.

Seen that Yamaha Fan is back and as this was/is a very interesting thread thought to ask if there are any more news about the use of 2T oil. As I remmember there was a study undertaken by an University?
Any news?
I still use 2T oil and would be courious if there are some news. FREELANDER 2 TD4 SE (XS UK) IZMIR BLUE SIDE STEPS COLD PACK BI-XENON TINTED WINDOWS - AND PROUD OF HER

Hi All,

Fasinated by this thread and am thinking about trying 2T in my Freelander 2. However I'm confused as to whether my Freelander has DPF or not. Where could I find this information? The Land Rover website suggests that DPF is fitted but I want to ensure.

For info, I bought mine new in May 2007 in the UK and it's an HSE model.

Any help appreciated

AndyH wrote:

Hi All,

Fasinated by this thread and am thinking about trying 2T in my Freelander 2. However I'm confused as to whether my Freelander has DPF or not. Where could I find this information? The Land Rover website suggests that DPF is fitted but I want to ensure.

For info, I bought mine new in May 2007 in the UK and it's an HSE model.

Any help appreciated

DPF fitted FL2 are normally more expensive than non DPF. I don't know how your car registration looks like but in mine thre is a mention abt the engine power. In mine (no DPF) it says 118 KW. Normally the DPF reduces the engine power with a couple of HP so if in your registration the engine power is less than the FL2 shoud have a DPF. I don,t remmeberexactly but there should also be a difference between the noxes output. You can check - if noted on your registration or car identity paper (don't know if in the UK you have one but over here this is the paper where the car owner history is registered and we are not required to have this one with us all the time). If you drive a lot in heavy city traffic and traffic jams then a DPF Full sign should come on the dashboard so if you saw one you have it. If you did not see one it does not mean that you do not have one as the DPF fitted is the sefcleanning type.
I would guess that if you look under the car and see something more than the normal exhaust on the evacuation then this is the DPF. As I don'thave one I have no ideea how it looks but I would guess that it's sort like a cylinder.
When you start the engine and theFL2 does the system check up (the one when all the airbag and othe signs light up) is there a DPF sign ?
I did put 2T oil in the diesel from day one and there have not been any adverse effects (only have abt 300 Km) but I think the engine oes run more quietly than other diesels. Cannot say abt better mpg as have put oil from the start.
 FREELANDER 2 TD4 SE (XS UK) IZMIR BLUE SIDE STEPS COLD PACK BI-XENON TINTED WINDOWS - AND PROUD OF HER

Thanks for the reply, much appreciated. Just looked at my V5 document which lists all the car's specifications and registration details. The details are as follows:

Max Net Power: 118KW
CO (g/km or g/kWh): 0.085
NOx (g/km or g/kWh): 0.284
HC+NOx (g/km): 0.284
Particulates (g/km or g/kWh): 0.039

I assume from the above and your information that mine does NOT have DPF??

Anyone confirm?

You can chechk this for HP and noxes
http://www.discoverhybridcars.com/hybrid-c...in-germany

As you see the DPF engine output is given as 152 HP. I remember that non DPF have 158 HP so there should be a 3 or 4 KW difference. Check the noxes> I could not compare with what you gave.  FREELANDER 2 TD4 SE (XS UK) IZMIR BLUE SIDE STEPS COLD PACK BI-XENON TINTED WINDOWS - AND PROUD OF HER

I don't think the DPF filter is fitted as standard in the UK as it isn't required by law. me thinks it's an optional extra if you want to pay for it. ______________________
2011 Full Fat RR 4.4 TDV8
2012 FL2 SD4 Auto HSE
2013 Kawasaki Versys 650

Hello YF,

I started to add two stroke oil today, it is gulf pride t2 plus, is his okay?

the specs are on:

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:nWGsq...&gl=nl

please let me know i value your opinion on this.

regards Albert frederik.

Hello Albert,
very wise decision! You will not regret it. Your choice of 2-T oil is fine. Any 2-T oil which meets the JASO norm FB or FC will do. Buy the 2-T oil you can get at the best price.

Good luck
YF

Thank you YF,

just for fun, what would be your next car if you had to decide today to order a new car?

Regards Albert Frederik.

You are most welcome, Albert.
If I have to buy a new SUV today, I would buy the new Mercedes GLK 220 cdi with 7speed automatic. I had the chance to test drive this car at the Mercedes works in Stuttgart , and I am fascinated. But the price....!
What disturbes me most on Landrover is their ignorance with regard to owner experience and their suggestions/recommendations, the non-availability of (spare) parts with endless waiting time, the very rare dealers/work-shops in Germany, and the blindness of Landrover towards proper oil-qualities for engines with DPF.
My next car (SUV) will definitely NOT be a Landrover!!!

Regards
Yamaha-Fan

Goodafternoon YF,

I also would not choose Land Rover or any other SUV again, one of many reasons would be that the engines are too thirsty and I predict that within a short time we will be paying about 2 euro's or more per liter, regardless diesel or benzin. Also the mind set in Holland is changing and not in favor of SUV's.


I drive a BMW sedan and imho BMW has the right vision with the efficient dynamics program.
I know that it's not fair to compare but I drive twice the distance on 1 liter diesel compared with our Freelander
also my wife had to visit the dealer more times then I did in 22 years of driving BMW.
Although I don't want it but I think the segment SUV will disappear soon.

regards Albert Frederik.

Good afternoon, Frederik
Your arguments are understood and accepted. As I drive my Freely 2 very little (6-7.000 km p.a.) the fuel consumption is not the main argument for me. My avarage diesel consumption is 8,4 l/100km. The Mercedes GLK 220 cdi is said to consume considerably less! What I like with SUV's is the high entry and seating position, and the good overview. I have driven BMW's for more than 15 years (you may remember that I have exchanged my BMW X3 against the Freely 2), and my experience with BMW is mixed. Besides the for me unacceptable suspension, they are very unflexible and arrogant. I do drive on business Mercedes for quite some time now and my present (lease) car is a Mercedes E class 320 cdi automatic. My experience with Mercedes is very good: quick, professional, friendly and generous if it comes to keep the Mercedes-image clean.
I will keep my Freely for two more years until warranty runs out and than exchange. I need some vehicle to tow our horse trailer as my daughter loves riding and jumping (my great concern), and daddy is the chauffeur.

Best regards
Yamaha-Fan

albert frederik wrote:

Goodafternoon YF,

I also would not choose Land Rover or any other SUV again, one of many reasons would be that the engines are too thirsty ...... Also the mind set in Holland is changing and not in favor of SUV's.

Some may say the same about the mind set in the UK ..... however others would argue that this is simply media and politician induced prejudice! Several people have made snide remarks to me about gas guzzling 4x4s etc. .... as they climb into their sports saloons, estate cars, people carriers etc. which I suspect are probably worse than my lovely FL2!!  Life is not a dress rehearsal!