Just noticed that BlackBox solutions have released updated firmware for Freelander 2 (MSV-2 and the FCR). MY10 TD4 SE Auto

The product has been divided into segments / Year of Manufacture (MY), suggesting there's quite a bit of difference between them? MY10 TD4 SE Auto

Good for them, it's about time....
My (partially functional) FCR is waiting for this for over 2 years now in order to became fully functional...
Frankly I don't know what took them so long... It was a simple issue of properly opening communication with the MOST devices through the ICM gateway.

As for separating in versions, as Land Rover engineers said, from their point of view, there are really only 2 implementations of the bus architecture. The pre MY2013 and post MY2013. But hey, who knows how their software works....

Hello Alex,

Is it true that in some cases (eg reduced engine performance) by clearing the error codes you can get your car going again? And, if so, do you know if same can be achieved simply by disconnecting and reconnecting the battery? MY10 TD4 SE Auto

Yes, but it's partially true.
This because with each ignition cycle the ECU will test the components and/or their signal and if something it's wrong will throw the same error and enter the same limp mode.
If on the current cycle the error doesn't manifest itself, you may have the impression that all is OK. Until next time.

According with the ISO14229, the status of a DTC (diagnostic trouble code) could be any combination of the followings:
- TestFailed
- TestFailedThisOperationCycle
- PendingDTC
- ConfirmedDTC
- TestNotCompletedSinceLastClear
- TestFailedSinceLastClear
- TestNotCompletedThisOperationCycle
- WarningIndicatorRequested
Based on the combinations of the above, they can be grouped in Permanent, Intermittent, Pending, Historic and Not tested.
Therefore, some errors will be (or seem to be) canceled with the battery disconnection and some will not. Most of them will not.

As you can see, there are many test and/or conditions that must be done/meet in order for an error to be or not to be.

Alex, have you used your FCR unit much? I am thinking of getting one, and trying to gauge how much use it will get.... MY10 TD4 SE Auto

Seems the MSV only covers up to MY2012.I could not see anything for MY2013 onwards.

impact wrote:

Alex, have you used your FCR unit much?
I am thinking of getting one, and trying to gauge how much use it will get....

I've flashed the 1.9 firmware.
Still with errors....

For example, my Audio Control module has kept throwing an error during time.
The error is: U3000-87-2F: Control module, Bus signal/message failure - missing a message

But the FCR is saying:
P0000 - Unknown fault P0000 - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message

So the decoding of the error is (partially) faulty...

The dump of the error:
784 08 02 10 03 00 00 00 00 00
78C 08 06 50 03 00 32 01 F4 00
784 08 06 31 01 03 00 00 80 00
78C 08 04 71 01 03 00 00 00 00
784 08 03 19 02 AF 00 00 00 00
78C 08 07 59 02 FF F0 00 87 2F
784 08 04 31 02 03 00 00 00 00
78C 08 04 71 02 03 00 00 00 00

From what I know, F0 00 87 2F is translating to U3000, not P0000....

So does that mean that problems with FCR still exist?

I had a look through the JLR-mangoose: Very much interested. The only thing I am nor clear on is whether or not I will also need to pay for subscription to TOPix in order to use it for reading and clearing error codes? MY10 TD4 SE Auto

FCR is working much better than last time. But still has errors in decoding DTCs.

You don't need to have a paid subscription. The patch resolves these kind of things.
For example, for your peace of mind, I can do with it anything, from reading/erasing DTC to modifying CCF and reprogramming modules. I've had the problem with the radio draining the battery (after 2-3 days the battery was flat) and I've updated/reprogrammed the software in the audio control without any problems. Also modified the CCF for several tests.

Are you able to share the patch/ where can I download it from?

"Edit" Alex, Does it also tell you in plain English what the errors are? MY10 TD4 SE Auto

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The patch is on one of the DVDs, the main one, as the other two are with firmware of different ECUs for LR and Jaguar.
All is in plain English (or you can configure it in other languages too, but default is English), as the software is downloaded from the JLR's partner server, here: http://www.diagnosticdelivery.com/idscentral/
Just the interface driver's installation program is on Chinesse, but that has nothing to do with the main program and the driver's installation is pretty easy and intuitive as any other driver. Once the drivers are installed you don't have to worry about them anymore.

But be aware that the SDD is somewhat difficult, at least at first, to grasp.
It's a html/script/java based environment with all the pluses and minuses that goes from here.
It focuses/is based on a somewhat guided fashion diagnostic. Hence the name SDD (Symptom Driven Diagnostic). Meaning it collects at first a lot of informations and then, based on what you observe at the car, it tries to guide you to solve the problem.
So it's pretty technical and not so intuitive at first. But once you get used with it, it will be more easy to follow.

So, after initial setup, will the SDD program allow me to run a simple scan, and present to me any error codes and their decoded meaning as FCR would? MY10 TD4 SE Auto

As I've said, there is an error and information collecting stage at the beginning.
Then there is a separate section called Diagnostics.
There, up until they show you the errors, you should select what you may believe it has some problems. Eg Electrical - Battery - Charging system. Only then it will show you all error codes, for all modules with a relevance marker beside each of them telling you how much relevance has that particular error code with your malfunction.

Watch their video on youtube: