ccsnet - brilliant link thank you. And I couldn't agree more with the writers sentiments.

Just for my 2 pence.... stopped watching it a while back for the reasons stated on that post.... nothing new as such.

Thats not to say it is a bad show but here in the Uk I think its had its time.

I still see it on Dave during the day in the back ground but that is about it.

T Terran



'The' Car For The Modern Day UK Roads ( ie all the pot holes )

'A Freelander that leaks oil is just marking its territory' - Wise words

Now a member of the FL2 'Silly Bill' Club

The thing is, they still do some good stuff, and whilst the signal to noise ratio is getting steadily worse I still watch it for the good bits. The trip through Spain, for example, looking at the effects of the financial crisis there was the highlight of the series so far for me. (Possibly the only highlight so far of this series, but it's been worth watching just for that!)

One thing the caravan item did get me thinking about, though, was LR's positioning of the FL2 in the market. The FL2 seems to be seen as just another crossover (hence its appearance in the item), whilst cars like the X-Trail and Forester (which didn't feature) seem to be seen as more serious 4x4s. Yet in terms of ability the FL2 is the most serious 4x4 of the lot by some way. So why is it seen as a crossover whilst the X-Trail and Forester aren't? Surely it competes more with them then the likes of the cars in TG's vanning test - it shouldn't have been there.

It's partly due to LR's advertising of course (buy an FL2 and you'll be able to drive home from the supermarket in the rain! How about that, eh?), but is this clever positioning by LR (crossover segment is bigger), or are they selling the FL2 short? Should they be showcasing what it can really do? It's a far better 4x4 than it's given credit for, and deserves better imo...

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I hate lots of things on telly, but I don't go writing utter about them! Go read a book or go dogging you sado

if you dont like it turn it off,

it stopped being a car programme years ago,
if I want to see a ford fucus I can borrow one from the local dealer, I cant do that with a Mclaren.

Hamster will be driving the new Range Rover Sport tonight (+Jezza in the F-type).
Last of the series whether you like it or not! Gone... 2013 XS TD4 Manual Firenze Red
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Last of the series whether you like it or not!

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Be true to yourself. That way happiness lies...

Hats off... the last 15 minutes were inspired. I had tear in my eye...



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Same here, really enjoyed it.

Saw the FL2 among the others aswell.

they should have invited me to bbq some BRITISH chicken At work
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Now I'm watching the following programme about Germans and their cars.

Must admit I liked Hammond in the RR, but the last part of the show with the Great British music was awesome! Its a shame we don't have more people/companies singing the praise of the British! Black MY2013 SD4 GS Auto, Wood Company Armrest, Freel2 sticker.
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Fantastic! Best Top Gear for ages. Informative, interesting content well presented and enjoyable. What a pleasant change from the rubbish that preceded it in this series. Ours - 2008 Stornoway Grey HSE Auto
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