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atlas



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Romania 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Manual Tambora Flame

For sure I will take apart the old sender units.

Post #191583 16th Jul 2013 6:55 pm
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Golf nut



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 TD4_e GS Manual Lago Grey

Picked MY10 GS up from dealer today, the fuel pump wiring modification was done under LR extended warranty. No problems when I drove it home and dealer said they will replace fuel senders if it reappears. Will have to wait and see.
Car had been cleaned and polished, inside and out and tyres blackened so well pleased with that. Very Happy

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SakoQuad



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Golf nut wrote:
Picked MY10 GS up from dealer today, the fuel pump wiring modification was done under LR extended warranty. No problems when I drove it home and dealer said they will replace fuel senders if it reappears. Will have to wait and see.
Car had been cleaned and polished, inside and out and tyres blackened so well pleased with that. Very Happy


Will keep all fingers crossed that the new fix works. If it does it sounds as if it will save future sufferers a packet of money. Do keep us updated won't you?

Post #192520 24th Jul 2013 7:28 pm
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Golf nut



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 TD4_e GS Manual Lago Grey

Will do, I'm taking it for a longer run tomorrow so will see how it goes and let you know.

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Golf nut



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So far so good. Took car for a 50 mile run today on a less than half full tank and no problems Very Happy . Will update in a couple of weeks after we've towed our caravan to Anglesey and back.

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SakoQuad



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fingers firmly crossed! Enjoy the trip

Post #192657 25th Jul 2013 9:49 pm
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Golf nut



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Thumbs Up Unless the problem reappears in the meantime I will update in about 3 weeks.

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Golf nut



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 TD4_e GS Manual Lago Grey

Hi folks, just got back from holiday and so far no problems after about 300 miles.
I was wondering if James (Jhoulston) has managed to get the same modification done ?
Cheers
Mike 2010 GS TD4e manual Lago Grey

Post #194905 14th Aug 2013 5:31 pm
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jhoulston



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Hi Mike,

Yes, I have had the fix done and all seems good at the moment. Done about 1000 miles since fix and no problems with the reading.

Fingers crossed it is sorted.

James

Post #194906 14th Aug 2013 5:34 pm
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atlas



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Now in my opinion, the issues with the sender units are caused by metallic debris from the fuel tank. Because these converters are not sealed, small particles from the fuel tank can easily enter inside and change the resistor value.

But the main question remains, what is the source of these metallic particles ? Is the gas station or the high pressure pump ?

When the fuel tank was removed I've seen many metallic particle of about 1-2 mm inside the tank, but none of this side inside the pump case, so I presume (hope) that the HP pump is fine ...

Please let me know if more pictures are needed.

Inside the pump case:

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Main and the return pipe of the pump, both ends inside the pump case. Only the main pipe has dirt deposits inside:
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Golf nut



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Hi James Thumbs Up Maybe they've cracked it at last. 2010 GS TD4e manual Lago Grey

Post #194930 14th Aug 2013 8:19 pm
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rsbuz



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atlas wrote:
Now in my opinion, the issues with the sender units are caused by metallic debris from the fuel tank. Because these converters are not sealed, small particles from the fuel tank can easily enter inside and change the resistor value.

But the main question remains, what is the source of these metallic particles ? Is the gas station or the high pressure pump ?

When the fuel tank was removed I've seen many metallic particle of about 1-2 mm inside the tank, but none of this side inside the pump case, so I presume (hope) that the HP pump is fine ...

Please let me know if more pictures are needed.

Inside the pump case:
Click image to enlarge


Main and the return pipe of the pump, both ends inside the pump case. Only the main pipe has dirt deposits inside:
Click image to enlarge


Hello atlas!

I had the same problem with my FREEL2 i6 in october 2012. The fuel gauge always wrong position. Sometimes I had more than 1/2 tank. Then I went to my mechanic and he put diagnostic. The result was a fault in sensor B (not the pump sender). Now, a month ago, the problem back again and more intense.

Your problem was similar as mine?

It's possible the fuel sender replace 10 months ago malfunction again?

Thank you, good luck with your FL!

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skiddy1903



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Scotland 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Auto Zermatt Silver

Sorry to resurrect this old thread but I was wondering if anyone who has had the hard wire fuel pump solution had it done out with warranty and if so what was the approximate cost? Is it just a couple of hours labour or is it longer and are there any parts needed?

My wife's car has been suffering intermitanty from a zero reading at start up for a while but just today begun to read only half full when I just filled it up.

When I searched on here I was getting worried reading about the cost of replacing the senders so was very happy to reach the posts saying that there was a wiring fix. That sounds much cheaper but I'd like an idea of how much before I take it to the garage on Thursday.

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Golf nut



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Hi Skiddy,
Had mine done under warranty, don't know how big a job it is but suspect not as big as replacing the senders. I've had no problems since it was done.
Cheers,
Mike. 2010 GS TD4e manual Lago Grey

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Scotland 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Auto Zermatt Silver

Thanks for the reply

Car is going into an independent garage tomorrow so I splashed out on a 1 hour TOPIx subscription to get a look at the related bulletins so I had an idea of what may be required.

If anyone else is interested the hard wire solution bulletin gives a labour time of around 2.5 hours (that's from memory, I did print it off and save a copy but I don't have it in front of me to double check.)

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