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Mav71



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This was not a thread about which is best, auto or manual. But on this subject, manuals FL2's are still out selling automatic versions.

Back to the thread though. This is just info I was given by people in the know at the R&D centre. The power changes make sense, as this would bring it into line with the two power options on the Jaguar 2.2 engine. Which is 163 and 200. If you think about it, all this would be is a slight software change.

Nothing was mentioned about the 9 speed auto box though.

I don't understand the comment about lack of investment on the FL2 though? The opposite is intact the truth. Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

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Mav71



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Natwest wrote:
I reckon someone is singing out of tune Mav...


Why? Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

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big-al-cove



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i thought the 9 speed auto was going to be to much to ask for but hopefully it will be a option on the FL2 replacement Thumbs Up 1995 P38 now dead
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pab



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Mav71 wrote:
I don't understand the comment about lack of investment on the FL2 though? The opposite is intact the truth.

I agree with you - I'm not seeing a lack of investment. Many of the changes may be seen as tinkering rather than improvement, and one may debate the wisdom of others (e.g. getting rid of the TR knob) but it seems to me that the FL2 has evolved as much as most cars do during their lifetime, and more than many.

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chrisr1806



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My thoughts too, Pab. Thumbs Up

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Yanwoo



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>> manuals FL2's are still out selling automatic

For that stat to be useful in indicating which is preferred, autos would need to be priced the same as manuals. Seeing as they're not, all we can say is that manuals plus £1.5k+ in the bank (or other options) is preferred to autos.

Interestingly, currently on autotrader the number of HSE autos vastly outweighs HSE manuals (287 vs 42 for cars up to three years old). We could hypothesise that for those who money is less a factor, they significantly prefer automatics and thus conclude that when we control for money (albeit crudely) auto is the preferred transmission. Of course, there could be a whole other bunch of reasons for that...

Anyway, just wanted to make sure people who might stumble on this thread don't read too much in to manuals outselling autos. FL2 2011 SD4 XS in Galway Green

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Kola's Kab



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Plus of course..........REAL drivers get to chose which gear and when and to hell with that little green arrow Wink

hehehehe Kola is the big solid black German Shepherd, Dobbie is.......a breed you've never heard of......yet;)

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Chris B



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I chose a manual for 09MY and 13MY to get better fuel economy. Both man and auto transmissions have their reliability issues.
If I lived "down south" in all the traffic all the time, I might have an auto but doing lots of miles on p per mile I need best consumption I can get and I think the manual is easier on the brake pads due to engine braking and I feel more in control of the torque at the wheels in mud and snow.
I'd worry about an SD4 manual giving an even harder life to the DMF and clutch - same for uprated Td4 - I hope they beef things up at the same time! Gone... 2013 XS TD4 Manual Firenze Red
Gone... 2008 (09MY) XS Td4 Manual Stornaway Grey
Prior... 2003 G4 Discovery 2, 1998 Disco 1 and 1997 Disco 1 Company car before that
Also gone in Nov'13, after 7.5 yrs, to new owners with time for more TLC - 1980 Series III 88
Current 2015 Discovery Sport HSE 2.0

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Interesting comment regarding the manual and brakes, the TD4 Manual I had the dealer changed the front Discs and fitted pads all round at 20k, the SD4 which was obviously Auto never had the brakes touched and was traded in with 33k on it. p****d off with a Digital Keyboard Warrior

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Slaneydore



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Always had autos myself, apart from my Escort Mexico that I still have in lockup...
Never really see the point in a manual on a car like a freely, its a lux motor and should be driven like one
Sitting back one arm on the armrest and one on the wheel with loads of room for your left foot.

But I'm sure some would disagree Shocked BETTER looking half of the famous Twinlanders
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Mav71



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It's quite amusing that this has turned in to another auto vs manual thread, when there was not even a mention of which was better or worse. Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

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pab



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Yep, but taking it even more off topic I can't resist picking up on:

Slaneydore wrote:
... a car like a freely, its a lux motor and should be driven like one

This really sums up the problem with Land Rovers today. They're NOT supposed to be 'lux motors' (which I assume means luxury road cars) - they're supposed to be supremely competent off-road vehicles with a large slice of utility! But they have become 'fashionable' and are being bought for the school and supermarket runs. LR obviously can't afford to ignore such customers, as they're bringing desperately needed money into the company, but the result is that LRs are getting less and less LAND ROVERS, and as a result less and less attractive to those people who actually want a Land Rover, not a fashion statement! Prices are going up as more and more of the gadgets and gizmos expected by the school run crowd are added, and capability is suffering as, for example, road-oriented wheels and tyres replace the ATs and, almost unbelievably, 2wd versions are released!

As a result LR are rapidly losing their traditional buyers. All the farmers around here drive Japanese pick-ups (or old Defenders), and Asian and non-UK European 4x4s are the norm amongst other 4wd buyers. There are still quite a few Freelanders around (1 and 2) but few Discoveries and RRs - they've quite simply priced themselves out of the market.

For the new type of LR buyer (most people on here, I suspect) this is, of course, not an issue. But it would be a pity if LR give up completely on their traditional markets. If only they'd keep LR more grounded, and leave it to RR to service the fashion market. But the lure of the lucre is too strong.

P.S. Why ARE so many people prepared to spend so much money on state-of-the-art off-road hardware they'll never, ever use? And accept the resulting compromises in on-road performance, handling, road-holding, comfort, space utilisation, etc? It doesn't make sense to a logical mind!

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big-al-cove



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there is only one answer LandRover is the Best 4x4 by far and thats why we put up with the small problems that pop up now and agian Thumbs Up 1995 P38 now dead
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Yanwoo



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Slaneydore wrote:
It doesn't make sense to a logical mind!


Perhaps...but it's not just the mind we make decisions with, emotions play a critical role too.

"Without heart we would be mere machines" Very Happy FL2 2011 SD4 XS in Galway Green

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shilen



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Going back to the TOPIC!!!!!!

Any other ideas of what else might appear on the MY2014, any rumour on colours (LR tend to bring a couple of new colour in each year)

Also, the FL3 (or whatever it will be called), its going to appear in 2015 but any idea when it will be available for sale? The only reason I ask is that in March 2014 I need to lease another car (which will 99.99% be a FL2) but do I go for a 1 or 2 year lease? If the FL3 doesnt appear until the back end of 2015 I will go for a 2 year lease.

oh by the way - auto is best Whistle Now - 2017 BMW X3 M Sport Carbon Black
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Gone - 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Bali Blue with xenons
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