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npinks



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I read last night that you need planning over 30msq, it might be better for me to keep below that, but still need to work on the small retaining boundary wall

It reads like your neighbours put in an objection, is that true? Or is it the council looking and say they could see the garage if they stood there even though its a brand new one

Edit: looking at the M sq of Double garages on the website it's would less than double than what I have now, to get within the 30msq the up and over door might be 4cm,off the night of the car, so if I was to keep a FL2 with roof bars that's very close, might need to go higher roofed garage Shocked Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis


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its blue asbestos thats nasty, white asbestos found in roof sheets etc isnt so bad but avoid making it into dust were possible At work
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Thumbs Up

Still needs wrapping up though, last time I was involved in doing it cost about £50 at the tip, compared to nearly £800 by a company Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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Joking aside, asbestos is bad in any colour and form. Its not the particals you can see that are harmful but the ones you cant see.
No matter how much water you put on it you will not "dampen it down". Only an certain kemicals will.
There can be asbestos in things from floor tiles, roof tiles, drain pipes, pinboards in schools to your old toilet seat. Infact it was widely used in almost everything upto and including artex ceilings and wall coverings.
You need a specialist firm to inspect and remove it and it must go to a special registered tip. If not your breaking the law.
Asbestos is deadly to you and your family so be warned. Do you realy wany to put your family and others at risk? ????

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If you take the required precautions your safe to remove it yourself

so my life and the kids won't be at risk, as i won't be doing in my flip flops and boardies with a can of lager in my hand Thumbs Up Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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npinks


find out if you could put up 2 single garages (separate buildings)

that might keep you under the 30msq 1995 P38 now dead
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npinks wrote:
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I've still have to extend the house too, so moving might be easier :|


Nick,

I think that if you are extending the house as well as building a bigger garage you may well need planning permission.
As others have said a trip to the planning department would be well advised.
I would make an appointment to see them and take some sketch plans of what you propose to do.

Best of luck.

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the extended house would be on top of the existing single storey side extension to increase a bedroom and bathroom size upstairs, I don't think we will do that side of things for a few more years though as my daughter is only 4 (in a few months)

I have sketched a plan of what it is currently, and will edit in to the plan what i want

I have emailed a local landscaper/builder to see what he comes up with for options

I'm starting to think raising it will be astronomical high in building walls and planning etc Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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Why not combine your retaining wall with a garden boundary wall and forget about a separate fence on on top of a retaining wall.
You would then be allowed to build a wall visible from your neighbours side 2000mm high without requiring planning permission.
On your side of the wall you then simply backfill with hardcore and concrete to the required level.
The wall would probably require to be thicker at lower level adjacent to the backfill for structural purposes but this could be hidden by the concrete finish.
You will require planning permission for a garage if it's more than 2500mm high, probably viewed from your neighbours side.
You won't require building reg approval for the wall or the garage as long as it's floor area is less than 30m2.
As said before I would go and talk to the Planning people and the Building control people.

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Thanks for the info on the wall, I was thinking a fence would be nicer, for the neighbours view out her kitchen window

But it's a good idea, I've seen a 22'3"x14'5" extra height garage which is about 29.76m sq, but would need to look at the height restriction and again discuss this with the planners as don't want it too far off boundary Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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More I think about it the more I like the idea of a wall, 1m high or there abouts on the driveway, maybe with a bit of iron work inbetween a couple of parapets, raising to 2m high from then on to the rear, more substantially built to take into account the raising and back filling, to level the compete garden, install a sub 30m sq garage built right next to wall, as long a its less than 2.5m high Smile

Ignoring the roof as that needs correctly disposing, could the old garage and base be broken up to help towards back filling the area to be raised?

Would the rain guttering need to be attached to the drains, or can a soak away be installed, even though I would want to harvest some rain water, in a couple of large water tanks to filter for washing the car/watering the garden, but drain away the excess

Now on to the planning Thumbs Up Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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Building a detached garage of less than 30 square metres floor area would not normally need building regulations approval if:

the floor area of the detached garage is less than 15 square metres.
the floor area of the garage is between 15 square metres and 30 square metres, provided the garage is at least one metre from any boundary, or it is constructed from substantially non-combustible materials.


Does that mean you can build within a meter if its not combustible ? Ie prefab garage sized 29.76m sq Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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npinks wrote:
More I think about it the more I like the idea of a wall, 1m high or there abouts on the driveway, maybe with a bit of iron work inbetween a couple of parapets, raising to 2m high from then on to the rear, more substantially built to take into account the raising and back filling, to level the compete garden, install a sub 30m sq garage built right next to wall, as long a its less than 2.5m high Smile

Ignoring the roof as that needs correctly disposing, could the old garage and base be broken up to help towards back filling the area to be raised?

Would the rain guttering need to be attached to the drains, or can a soak away be installed, even though I would want to harvest some rain water, in a couple of large water tanks to filter for washing the car/watering the garden, but drain away the excess

Now on to the planning Thumbs Up


No reason at all why you couldn't use the dimolished old garage as part of the infill for the raised driveway, no to would just be a waste.
You would need to ask Building Control about a soakaway for rainwater, some allow some don't. Tends to depend on the sub-soil conditions in the locality.

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At least the old garage and base will mean less stuff to buy for filling in

I'll have to ask on a soak away, we are on old mining land so not sure Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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