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Mona Geeza

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muddywheels wrote:
I am shocked that if this is true he was never exposed during all the years he was alive

He was, sounds like he was exposed on the back seat of his Roller.

2nd Oct 2012 7:13 pm

taztastic

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Jimmys clutches left a bad smell too

End of the day, he's dead, move on, concentrate on those still out there.

2nd Oct 2012 7:13 pm

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Just been reading on BBC news that the CPS reviewed evidence and declared no further action on a lack thereof.

Depending on the outcome of course, the CICA is one avenue for the victims of this alleged crime. LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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2nd Oct 2012 9:32 pm

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Few slightly naive people saying 'he's dead now so what' Mine: 2012 Golf GTI Edition 35
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2nd Oct 2012 11:35 pm

Apache

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Big Dave wrote:
Few slightly naive people saying 'he's dead now so what'

What do you propose - dig him up and take him to court?

There is NOTHING that can be done.

Wouldn't surprise me if people crawled out of the woodwork after money. His estate will have been dissolved so there should be no money to be had. IF the allegations are true is money going to make it any better?

It's just PATHETIC accusing people of things when they can't defend themselves. If it was real and so bad then go to the authorities at the time, not now. All you have is hearsay.

3rd Oct 2012 12:00 am

taztastic

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Big Dave wrote:
Few slightly naive people saying 'he's dead now so what'

And your proposal is what exactly

He's dead we can't prosecute him, maybe learn from the mistakes?
Victims can be councilled, more than likely they will want to embellish a story that cannot be proved in the hope of receiving a hand out from the highest bidding editor.

3rd Oct 2012 7:18 am

Big Dave

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Apache, Taztastic.

What if your daughters (hypothetically) came home one day and told you they had been abused a few years ago? Would you just say 'ah well, you should have said something nack then, but seeing as though you haven't then knackers to you'?!

Come on lads. The very leaast, it should be re-investigated, and if found guilty he can be stripped of his knighthood, his reputation destoyed. If he's found not guilty, then it all goes away.

But beyond it being about him, what about looking into procedure to ensure this doesn't happen again? Do you have daughters at school? Do you like the idea some pervert 'celebrity' (of which there are plenty of dodgy wrongdoing 'idols' out there) could have access to your children to potentially do as they please? Mine: 2012 Golf GTI Edition 35
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3rd Oct 2012 9:43 am

taztastic

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I hear your argument but not convinced about investigating him directly, those around him at the time, then yes. It seems to be coming to light that other people knew.
I think time and effort would be wasted trying to prove his involvement dragging out the anxiety for his alleged victims.
Stripping his Knighthood, fine but realistically what would it achieve, everyone simply calls him Jimmy Saville anyway.
It's a very difficult and emotive subject.

3rd Oct 2012 10:00 am

Martin
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Guys - there will be differing opinions on this so please keep the discussion civil.

3rd Oct 2012 10:17 am

Bugblatter

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He isn't around to pay the price so what is the point? There can't possibly be justice other than digging up his coffin and putting it in a prison cell. If it was my daughters I would be very angry, but as he is dead there is nothing to do.

Unless of course it is the usual "justice" which is being sought, i.e. "compo". 2013 RR Evoque Pure Tech
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3rd Oct 2012 7:01 pm

Apache

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Big Dave wrote:
Apache, Taztastic.

What if your daughters (hypothetically) came home one day and told you they had been abused a few years ago? Would you just say 'ah well, you should have said something nack then, but seeing as though you haven't then knackers to you'?!

Seriously there is not going to be one scrap of genuine evidence. If my daughter had confessed something like this had happened in the past I would say they were daft for not coming forwards at the time when there may be some concrete evidence.

Please don't get me wrong - I am not playing down ther seriousness of any sort of sexual crimes against women. I am in favour of much more severe punishments. What I don't feel happy about is this 'trial by media'. You just need a vengeful woman to regret last nights drunken fumble and cry 'rape' in the morning wrecking some poor blokes reputation forever even if no charges are ever brought.

Look at Matthew Kelly's career after his accusations.

A crime should be investigated in private not in the papers.

I'm sure this is all about money and a man who cannot defend himself.

3rd Oct 2012 7:51 pm

D99

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An investigation is needed because if true there might have been others involved who are still alive.

4th Oct 2012 10:26 pm

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mudslinger wrote:
Whatever the Right,s or Wrong,s of what the Guy Might or Might not have done ,
the place to fight it was in the courts when he was ALIVE.

As far as I know no one has ever come back from the dead to clarify anything.

Just let the so called "Red banner press" have their 9 minutes of Justice ....

Hillsborough springs to mind, that does not bring anyone back either ..!!

I refer my learned friend to the answer I gave earlier ...!!
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5th Oct 2012 5:39 am

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D99 wrote:
An investigation is needed because if true there might have been others involved who are still alive.

yes I agree, and from what seems to be coming out now there could be other DJ's, celebrities, etc involved.

Iain

5th Oct 2012 7:16 am

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iain cooper wrote:
D99 wrote:
An investigation is needed because if true there might have been others involved who are still alive.

yes I agree, and from what seems to be coming out now there could be other DJ's, celebrities, etc involved.

Iain

Im hearing rumours Freddie Star was the third man with Saville and Glitter in the dressing room.

5th Oct 2012 7:38 am

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